Summoner Demystified: A Guide for Beginners

[FeliAiko]

Two things:

1. Blue Carbuncle should also be on Obey. Garuda-egi is just an upgraded version of it mechanically, so they share the same moves (just renamed). That means Carby also has Contagion (named Shining Emerald), so for those lvling SMN from scratch it's good practice to get used to keeping Summon I on Obey, period.

2. No reason to replace Ruin when you get Ruin II because that's not its purpose. If you have no reason to move, or to weave in an oGCD like Fester, then you simply spam Ruin I until DoTs need to be reapplied.

Other than that, seems all good so far.

[Zepla]

Two things:

1. Blue Carbuncle should also be on Obey. Garuda-egi is just an upgraded version of it mechanically, so they share the same moves (just renamed). That means Carby also has Contagion (named Shining Emerald), so for those lvling SMN from scratch it's good practice to get used to keeping Summon I on Obey, period.

2. No reason to replace Ruin when you get Ruin II because that's not its purpose. If you have no reason to move, or to weave in an oGCD like Fester, then you simply spam Ruin I until DoTs need to be reapplied.

Other than that, seems all good so far.

Hi there, I'm leveling SMN and just hit level 40. Is there any compelling reason to use Ruin over Ruin II? Mana is not an issue for me at all.

On Reddit someone said that "Actually, Ruin II gives you a damage increase WHEN and only WHEN you are standing in melee range and have auto attack on." ?? This makes no sense to me... Can someone help me out? Thanks.

[Sleigh]

Hi there, I'm leveling SMN and just hit level 40. Is there any compelling reason to use Ruin over Ruin II? Mana is not an issue for me at all.

While it's still bad form to spam Ruin II over Ruin, this was a much bigger deal pre-2.5 (or some 2.5X patch) when they reduced Ruin and Ruin II's cost. Post-reduction I'll admit you can get away with spamming Ruin II over Ruin in a lot of fights, including raids, but it's a very bad habit because the fights where MP won't survive (like Savage A2, kinda A3 and A4), or if shit hits the fan and you want to use Resurrection or re-summon a cleaved Garuda/Ifrit, you'll be in the weeds MP wise.

[alphamax112]

Hi there, I'm leveling SMN and just hit level 40. Is there any compelling reason to use Ruin over Ruin II? Mana is not an issue for me at all.

On Reddit someone said that "Actually, Ruin II gives you a damage increase WHEN and only WHEN you are standing in melee range and have auto attack on." ?? This makes no sense to me... Can someone help me out? Thanks.

Ruin II only when you have to weave something or when you have to move constantly. Other than that just Ruin/Ruin III(in DwT).