"Perks" would do soooo much for this game

[MasamuneBranford]

Think about it. We do weekly tomestone caps for stat gear, raid drops for stat gear, hunts for stat gear, crafting for stat gear, pvp for stat gear, relic quests for stat gear, misc. for stat gear. So many different branches - but little incentive to play them all. Imagine how fun this game would be if there were greater incentives to branch out?

Imagine this scenario for BLM:

I play PvP because there's a way for me to earn a head piece that can provide an auto-raise every 15 minutes (great for raids).

I craft because there's a way for me to craft a belt (non-tradeable) that provides me 5% haste. The belt requires rare drops from dungeon chests which provides incentive to do dungeon runs outside of tomestone caps.

I grind for Tomestones because I can purchase gloves that add a new PvP ability that allows me to teleport to anyone in my party every 5 minutes on the battlefield. This will help me get that head piece I wanted (above).

I do hunts because there's a chance that one will drop a crafting gear that would help increase the success rate to make the above mentioned belt.

I do raids because the weapons have the highest stats and gives me an extra weapon skill that that puts all enemies around my target asleep when I use the weapon skill,

I do relics because the stats are equal to (or close) to relic but provide an extra weapon skill that hits all enemies around my target with a poison mist.

The above probably aren't the best examples (I came up with them within under a minute) but you get the point. Countless scenarios and countless ways the developers could create situational gear that we would strive to obtain. Gear that not only offers "perks" but unique abilities to go on our action bars that are only available when such gear is equipped.

Currently I don't craft. Currently I don't do PvP. Currently I don't do relics. But if there were incentives for me to earn perks that I could not obtain elsewhere - it might be worthwhile to go after additional gear that has the same stats that I already have.

[Atoli]

People would still figure out which is considered BiS, and pretty much everyone would only do the required things and ignore all other "branches".

Also, I personally don't like the game forcing me into content I dislike. The nice thing about FFXIV is that it is built like a theme park - whichever ride I enjoy, I can only ride on that and still get a great experience out of it.
I don't want to be forced to have to do hunts/crafting to obtain vastly better gear ("better" as in "considered better by those people who learn through mathematical testing which skills, stats, etc. are best for each and every situation"). I wouldn't consider a game enjoyable that forces me into content I hate.
If the difference in what you get from each "branch" is marginal, I'm fine with it, but that's basically what we have right now already, with all gear providing pretty much the same functionality and only slight differences in stats that can be outweight by how good the player is.

[MasamuneBranford]

People would still figure out which is considered BiS, and pretty much everyone would only do the required things and ignore all other "branches".

Also, I personally don't like the game forcing me into content I dislike. The nice thing about FFXIV is that it is built like a theme park - whichever ride I enjoy, I can only ride on that and still get a great experience out of it.
I don't want to be forced to have to do hunts/crafting to obtain vastly better gear ("better" as in "considered better by those people who learn through mathematical testing which skills, stats, etc. are best for each and every situation"). I wouldn't consider a game enjoyable that forces me into content I hate.

Regarding your first comment - there can be BIS depending on the situation. Maybe gear earned from PvP would be better suited for a second raid boss and gear from tomestones would be better suited for the first raid boss. Your remaining comments (the themepark aspect) are definitely valid and something any developer would need to pay attention to.

[Slappah]

Regarding your first comment - there can be BIS depending on the situation. Maybe gear earned from PvP would be better suited for a second raid boss and gear from tomestones would be better suited for the first raid boss. Your remaining comments (the themepark aspect) are definitely valid and something any developer would need to pay attention to.

I would rather not have PvP gear be bis for a certain raid boss

PvP gear should be PvP and pve gear should be pve

[Delily]

Regarding your first comment - there can be BIS depending on the situation. Maybe gear earned from PvP would be better suited for a second raid boss and gear from tomestones would be better suited for the first raid boss. Your remaining comments (the themepark aspect) are definitely valid and something any developer would need to pay attention to.

Never make PvP dependent on PvP, that's a setup for a disaster. Also, we already have an inventory crunch, this would just make it worse.

[Cheraa]

Regarding your first comment - there can be BIS depending on the situation. Maybe gear earned from PvP would be better suited for a second raid boss and gear from tomestones would be better suited for the first raid boss. Your remaining comments (the themepark aspect) are definitely valid and something any developer would need to pay attention to.

No, just no.
We already have big issues with inventory space and now you want us to have specific Items for just one Boss?

No, thank you!

What I would like is a complete change of Materia. No longer any +Stats on it but active and passive perks.
Every Armor and Weapon gets one Materia Slot and there would be different perks like:

- When hit, x% chance to gain a 1k Absorb Shield (Armor)
- When hit, x% chance to poison the enemy (Armor)
- Attacks have a chance to replenish Health / TP / Mana (Weapon)
- Attacks deal Frost/Fire/Holy/etc. DMG on hit (Weapon)
- Attacks have a chance to Stun for x Seconds (Weapon)

[Devils_Lawyer]

People would still figure out which is considered BiS, and pretty much everyone would only do the required things and ignore all other "branches".

And this sort of thinking is the reason why this game has one of the most boring gear progress ever.

The only thing in this game that would require BiS is endgame raiding, a content that is obsolete for the majority of players in this game (regardless of reason).

If you don't like doing something then no one is forcing you, there's certain raid gear pieces i would love to have as glamour but I'm not raiding so i don't get to acquire them.

[Delily]

And this sort of thinking is the reason why this game has one of the most boring gear progress ever.

The only thing in this game that would require BiS is endgame raiding, a content that is obsolete for the majority of players in this game (regardless of reason).

If you don't like doing something then no one is forcing you, there's certain raid gear pieces i would love to have as glamour but I'm not raiding so i don't get to acquire them.

First, glamour is not the same as BiS. Second, that sort of thinking has been proven out in every game that any sort of decision regarding gear or skills. The overwhelming majority of players will go with the setup that sims the highest, regardless of what level of content they are at. WoW went from that type of model to a reduce model for that reason.

[Devils_Lawyer]

First, glamour is not the same as BiS. Second, that sort of thinking has been proven out in every game that any sort of decision regarding gear or skills. The overwhelming majority of players will go with the setup that sims the highest, regardless of what level of content they are at. WoW went from that type of model to a reduce model for that reason.

You cant put a price tag on glamour, BiS or anything else cause every player has different things that interests them, whilst someone may see BiS as a must have someone else will see the same but with glamour.

Its true in older mmos BiS was the thing on everyone's mind but ARR is different, this is a casual game where the majority of players are not looking up rotations or doing calculations to find out their max dps/healing.

But still, whats wrong with giving us options? do you really want to still be grinding tomes for that 1 gear set 2 years from now?

[ChocoFeru]

I'd love "perks" too, but gear gets outdated too fast.

A FF9 gear system can fit FFXIV, yet it would require a whole new system.



They could just modify the Materia system and make it FF7-like.

Adding generic materia, let's say "red materia, blue materia etc..." and you can exchange it to a NPC and choose wich effects you want to put into that materia "healing +5%, Double Attack +2% etc..." so that way you can spiritbond/buy the generic materia, then choose the effect you want.

So after every 6 months with new raiding gear, all you'll need to do is get new materia to personalise again your new gear, instead of just tossing the old "perk" gear because it would have low stats.


I think materia needs to be better!