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    100+ old quests to access expansion content...?

    Hello,

    I am new to FF14. I purchased the game last week or so and leveled to 50. I was looking forward to seeing the expansion zone when I learned that I must complete the old endgame story quest chain of 100+ quests to access the expansion. Why?

    Like many players, I don't read anything. I just want to relax and play with my friends. I skip every cutscene, I click thru every dialog.

    If in purchasing this game there had been a notice saying "after you level you have to go through 100+ pointless old storyquests with endless cutscenes before you can play" I would not have purchased the game. Now I am many, many hours invested and basically have no choice but to go through it anyways.

    Why are you doing this to me, and yourselves?

    Edit 1: a full day into this old-story quest grind, almost half done. It has been about 8-9+ hours of endless "run here" "no wait run there." The quests give approximately 1/3 of the XP of normal quests for no apparent reason. I am stocking up blue quality LV 50 gear that I will immediately replace with LV 51 whites as soon as this is over. Some food for thought- If the Devs did not want you to ever skip cut scenes or dialog, why do they even let you?

    Edit 2: I maintain my opinion but am requesting this thread to be closed because of overwhelming negative responses from other players. I was simply trying to vent some frustration and voice my opinion to the devs (whether they pay attention or not) but clearly voicing this opinion is not welcome here.

    Edit 3: I am done with the questline- it was a bad time. Clarification: There is NO lore argument possible which explains why you have to do this. They WRITE the lore and can write it any way they want. They WRITE the quests and have complete control. It takes seconds to create an alternate scenario that explains why you can get into a long exclusive area.
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    The story is one of the main points to this game and with the expansion, I would say XIV has a story as compelling as the other main line Final Fantasy's. Story has always been a major selling point for Final Fantasy games and I feel it always will. If you don't like story, you're playing the wrong kind of game. There are dozens of MMOs that are recent enough to be playable that give 0 care to the story but XIV is not one of them.

    Also the quest can take a long time but you said you're skipping the cutscenes and all that, so honestly speaking it will take you 1 more week or less to catch up to the expansion. If you really hate the story, then just do the quests to get good levels so you don't need to grind later on since they give nice EXP.

    And no, you're not like many players. Every single player I know that plays the game enjoys the story. I know I don't know the whole community but I can safely say that it seems clear that the vast majority of XIV players aren't skippers like you.
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    the story lines it up of "WHY" we get to go into ishgard and the other areas. if you do not like the story then all well and good. though the story progresses like you would watch a tv show. Heavensward is season 2 of said show. you can skip season 1 lie the way you said you were doing. though in the end. you do not know who or why it is happening.

    i agree that FF14 is the storys main focus. 1.0 never had a story when it launched. it also stopped a lot of RMT activity because of said gate is in place. so we do not see buy gil for X amount in the new zones because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuma_aus View Post
    If you don't like story, you're playing the wrong kind of game.

    And no, you're not like many players. Every single player I know that plays the game enjoys the story. I know I don't know the whole community but I can safely say that it seems clear that the vast majority of XIV players aren't skippers like you.
    That's a huge set of assumptions you have just made. Maybe that is your experience, but I seriously doubt you have surveyed the millions of players here and done an analysis? Everyone I play with has said "When you reach lv 50, you will hate life. We all went through it and hated it." So clearly, your opinion does not represent all players, and your post has not answered the question here.

    My post is clearly targeted toward the devs and not other players. If you are going to respond with random tidbits of empirical knowledge, please respect the fact that you don't actually have any basis for establishing those tidbits as fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dementiondrive View Post
    it also stopped a lot of RMT activity because of said gate is in place. so we do not see buy gil for X amount in the new zones because of it.
    If that was actually the reason, I would accept and understand that. However, I see no evidence that is specifically the reason this is forced on us.
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    who plays a final fantasy game and doesn't follow any of the story?.....

    This is like the only MMO that can use the story as a main selling point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zbtiqua View Post
    If you are going to respond with random tidbits of empirical knowledge, please respect the fact that you don't actually have any basis for establishing those tidbits as fact.
    I said I don't know the whole community. But just go out and search yourself. If people were like you, skippers, there would be hundreds of discussions all over the internet about how the story is not important to the game. Except the exact opposite is true. Every where you look, every review you read, the story is one of the key points. On the official forums, people talk and discuss the story. You don't see any threads saying that the story in the game needs to be cut down, because people who think like that aren't the main target audience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raidenz View Post
    who plays a final fantasy game and doesn't follow any of the story?.....

    This is like the only MMO that can use the story as a main selling point.
    Plenty of people. If the dev's dont want skippers to play they could say that, but I don't see them turning down anyone's money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuma_aus View Post
    If people were like you, skippers, there would be hundreds of discussions all over the internet
    I did not say "the story is not important to the game." I said "the story is not important to the game, to plenty of people." Again you are missing the point, but since you mentioned it I did search, as I suspect you did not. See some of the following people who agree with me:
    One article

    Two articles

    This guy asked, but nobody knows

    Should I go on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zbtiqua View Post
    Plenty of people.
    That's quite the assumption you made. If you are going to respond with random tidbits of empirical knowledge, please respect the fact that you don't actually have any basis for establishing those tidbits as fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by zbtiqua View Post
    Should I go on?
    Oh please do. As you can clearly see, all your posts about people who hate the requirement, there are so many more that disagree in the comments. Clearly the people who hate the requirement are the vast minority based on all you've shown.
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