Would Clemency by OP as insta cast?

[winsock]

Tanks and healers dps. Would you consider it stepping on damage dealers' toes? No. They help. The same goes for healing paladin.

Please explain how a healer or tank DPSing steps on toes? The role of a dps is primarily to maintain high dps for an encounter. This means knowing your rotation, where to stand, etc. How does healer and tank dps prevent a dps class from keeping their dps high for the fight?

Healers also have bigger mana pool. If paladin would beat you to heal, so what? The target gets healed faster, which is better, and healer would still had to press the button so in sense it isn't wasted mana coz it was already required.

The "so what" part is that a paladin isn't a healer. I'm not saying clemency couldn't, I'm saying clemency shouldn't. You also never answered my question from earlier so I'll ask again. what would you consider to be stepping on healer's toes? Also, what would be the smallest buff you could give clemency to make it OP in your opinion?

On the other hand Clemency in its current state is far from optimal as it's effectiveness starts and ends with anecdotal stories when it sometimes works. Should you press the button, should you not press the button, well healer is going to heal it anyway... oh whoops the guy just died.

Tanks and healers have tons of responsibility I see no reason they couldn't share it.

Ah okay, so what do you propose healers should get in order to tank bosses or provoke or make big pulls etc?

[Archaell]

I consider damage dealers to be responsible for killing mobs using their tools effectively. Tanks and healers don't step on their toes, but it is same kind of logic as paladins stepping on healers' toes. How does healing paladin prevents healers from keeping party members alive? It doesn't. Unless you are worried about parsing heals. In which case it could be considered stepping on healer's toes... but I can't see how that matters. It is not like paladin has a party wide healing debuff or anything.

Smallest buff to make clemency OP? Tough question. I'd say give it one second cast time and heal the whole group.

For your last question... Have you ever had a tank with poor enmity management skill? I have tanked too many things for my taste. Paladin isn't the only class with healing abilities, do you get offended when classes use self-healing abilities? I don't think so. Your point of view about paladin doing something healers should do seems like a tank getting angry that party members use enmity reduction abilities, because it is tank's job to keep enmity high enough without needing help.

Or why not keep clemency as is but make it uninterruptible?

That would be a good start, but I doubt it would make the skill significantly more appealing.

[Launched]

How does healing paladin prevents healers from keeping party members alive? It doesn't. Unless you are worried about parsing heals. In which case it could be considered stepping on healer's toes... but I can't see how that matters. It is not like paladin has a party wide healing debuff or anything.

Clemency conflicts with healers because it has a cast time. If you overheal because of Clemency, someone wasted a GCD where they could have been doing damage. It's not like DPS where every bit of damage helps towards enrage, people have limited HP and 2 people trying to heal the same person will waste resources (GCD on PLD, GCD+mana on healers). It's fine in cases where you precast it to land right after a huge amount of damage like a tankbuster, but trying to heal after an autoattack or trying to heal a DPS that got hit by an aoe is just a waste in most cases.