Triple Triad causes so much negativity

[Nasibihc]

There's so much negativity revolving around the triple triad game. Let's take a few examples:

- Some cards are incredibly frustrating to obtain with abysmal close to zero odds (Dungeons and npc's combined)

- Some NPC's throw disrespectful lines towards the player and are arrogant and adding in the above for these npc's. (Midnight Dew for example).

- The Triple Triad tournament is a joke and now you can't even play against npc's anymore to get a decent shot at the platinum packs like you could before (it was enjoyable before that one patch happened and then it wasn't anymore) Not to talk about the 50 frustrating games you actually need to do in order to participate and even then getting a platinum pack isn't guaranteed. Seems like win trading is the only way to actually have a chance at this.

- The whole random rule shenanigan when you have 70+ card pool and the enemy opponent only has 6 cards to choose from.

- Getting a card with RNG alone creates a huge time sink. Previous Final Fantasies actually let you choose the card you wanted if the opponent actually played it.

- Triple Triad having absolutely NO use for anything in the game and it's still so hard to obtain some cards.

- This is not actually a fault, but the feel that when ever chaos rule is in play, when ever the situation is dire, it almost ALWAYS chooses the card that you have absolutely no use for making you lose the game.

No matter how awesome the npc was in the story or how much you've liked them before, you now hate/dislike those npc's just because of TT when they are being total scrooges on not giving you the desired cards. Even now I'd personally want to strangle Tataru and just take the cards off of her after winning her hundreds of times without getting either Lightning or Firion.

Wasn't triple triad supposed to be fun? All of the above combined make a supposedly fun game disliked by so many players that some don't even want to collect the cards because they've heard it's such a long grind without an actual purpose.

Anybody know of the changes coming in 3.1? Any related changes to TT?

[Odd]

The only thing I've heard that's changing in 3.1 is we're getting new cards and new npcs to play against. I expect the same bs that you mentioned.

[ShaunBeezle]

yup I was super stoked for triple triad for about the first 3 months racing with friends to get 60 cards and then racing to get the rest, but after seeing win trading, realizing how the drop rates are super frustrating(i.e. took me 1274 wins to get lightning card), and the Random rule for NPCs being the hands down dumbest thing ever, I quit all TT. If I want to play a good card game I load up my ff8 game.

[Moonleg]

I was a dedicated card collector in 2.5. Like, really dedicated, I was over 70 cards when Heavensward launched.

Now all the NPCs have crappy Random rules, insult me whenever I lose (which is all the time), and even tell me to 'get more cards' for the Random rule to screw me over with. People who have probably bought gil use that gil to pay other players to lose in tournaments - and yes, I am 100% certain that is the case for at least one tournament winner at one point on my server.

Yeah, no. I play games to have fun. Triple Triad stopped being fun.

[CyrilLucifer]

Agreed with just about everything in the OP.

I think one thing that would help the HW NPCs would be making their card selection a bit more varied. Giving them even 12 cards instead of 6-7 would help considerably.

I'm honestly not sure what SE thought was going to happen with the tournament and win trading. MMO players can be very competitive and some are very prone to abusing systems to get what they want the easy way, it's no surprise that TT is no exception.

I personally don't mind grinding low drops rates on cards as long as they're not locked under the Random rule and a NPC with 3 5-Star cards and 1 3-star card and 1 4-star card.

Convenience-wise, the patch notes do mention the some previously dungeon-specific card drops are being added to NPCs, so that's nice. Chimera has refused to drop for me, as has Ravana, despite spamming HM and Ex.

Still hoping for more Ascian cards at some point.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

The only reason I can think of in terms of all the HW NPCs being in love with the random rule is to curb players from farming easily. I remember people talking about how they farmed that imperial guy in 2,X to get easy MGP.

[Teals]

I agree with everything in this, On FF8, Triple Triad was fun, Triple Triad was meant to be fun in this game too.

I don't know what SE idea of fun is, but it's absolutely terrible. They NEED to do 1 of 2 things in my opinion.

1. Make the NPC's have a card pool of more than 5/6 cards, especially if they use Random rule, actually make it fair, make people WANT to play Triple Triad against those npc's.

2. Make it so there is a guaranteed card EVERY win you get. This is another thing that made TT so much fun on FF8.

I have literally farmed Tataru since Friday evening until now, ended up with around 50 Tataru cards, and 3 Lightning cards, no Firion, and I'm beginning to believe she never actually drops it anyway.

And putting Random + Chaos, on an NPC that only has 5 or 6 cards, most of them very good cards, just is not fair to the player AT ALL!!

Sort it Square Enix! Do the right thing! Make Triple Triad a fun minigame again.

[VirusChris]

Just finished up playing TT with Tataru before Patch 3.1 this week... I have more losses than wins before of that DAMN combine of Chaos and Random rules! I mean COME ON! I only have 58 cards and even still you PICK the cards with so low numbers and Tataru has cards with 7 - A ranks and I can barely do anything against her and just have to get lucky in my cards and the placement of Tataru's cards to net a win and when I do it's usually her card that drops... and it's dropped 7 times for me! So many losses, some random draws, and very few wins.

Honestly don't know HOW they think this is a good idea! It's utter B to the S... sucks! Now if the NPCs had other cards with lower numbers for Random to make it even I wouldn't mind as much, but nope. Or at least make different "levels" of Random where only certain Star Rank Cards can be in random and the others are omitted. Like you can only use 3 - 5 star cards in Random (3-5) against Tataru so only cards you and she has are Rank 3 and above can be used and Card Ranks 1 - 2 will NOT be selected for Random. That would help ease the stress a bit.

I wanted that Lightning Card at least, but it's bull that she has like 2 Legendary Cards in her Deck and 3 Cards that have two 9s and 2 cards with two 8s on them and it covers her blind spots well you need to be super lucky to beat her. This is not fun, never played FF8 TT and because of FFXIV's version I will be weary to try it myself. I really really hate TT most of the time and trying to do the Achievements for them for extra cards... not worth it if most NPCs use the bloody Random rule all the time.

I seriously want to take a bat and go over to SE's headquarters... and smash their computers that host the TT files and ERASE it from the game. Or at least hack into the files and make all NPC's card have 0 on all sides so we can curbstomp them from all the hell they've given us. I'm tired of these unfair cheap shot advantages these NPCs.

[StandfordtaruWhm]

I just play for fun, and really even if i lose, i can always try again.
I don't worry about losing. it's going to happen, if you stay positive
and or calm you'll eventually win.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Yeah! Just like how Half Life 3 will "eventually" come and how we'll "eventually" have more inventory space for this game.