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  1. #11
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    eagledorf's Avatar
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    Jugem Mumei
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 37
    Quote Originally Posted by Anova View Post
    Or is it because the tanks are already doing something to survive those kind of hits that other classes can't ?
    Well, tanks do wear heavy armor that's presumably also...magic. Then they're enchanted with Protect and stuff too...so yeah, you gotta let go of logic.
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  2. #12
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    CGMidlander's Avatar
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    Height Error
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Immut View Post
    Blocking yes. You can block a fireball or a laser with a shield. You can not parry a fireball. That shit don't work. Unless you're using one of those ridiculously huge swords you can hide behind.

    As far as the manifest spell part, if it's got a solid physical form and isn't simply a form of energy, why isn't it just physical damage?
    You can parry Revelation in T12, if that counts for anything. lol
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  3. #13
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    Ralvenom's Avatar
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    Ralvenom Mahlfusant
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    Blocking Direct Spells
    In this case, spells that are direct would be able to be blocked. [snip]
    Great, this would require WARs to be adjusted, because no block & no magic reduction CDs...

    Parrying Manifest Spells
    So if Shiva hurls icicles at you, you should be able to parry them [snip]
    Makes sense, but...I doubt they'd ever do that...

    How Gud to Git
    50-70% of their physical mitigation amount would not be out of the question.
    Works for me.
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  4. #14
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    raymon's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Kurozuki
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    just gonna drop by and say that my WHM can parry the leaf storm thing (dont remember the name but its the room wide aoe) in turn 6.
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  5. #15
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    Freyja Redgold
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by raymon View Post
    just gonna drop by and say that my WHM can parry the leaf storm thing (dont remember the name but its the room wide aoe) in turn 6.
    It's a physical attack.
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  6. #16
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    Martin Arcainess
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Blocking Magic yes but Parrying work different from Blocking. Block you can play your shield up in front of you and let you shield take the blow or most of it but Parrying requires abit more interaction with the thing that is attacking, yes Shiva's Ice attack can be Parried but Ifrits flames can't.

    So Yes for Blocking Magic but no for Parrying Magic as most magic seems to be wibbly wobbly zappy zap thing and I think from a design view it easy to say. Your Magic and your Physical.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anova View Post
    Block and parry do very little to reduce HP damage, but HP isn't by itself health. It's just a numerical representation of how durable you are until you receive a fatal (or knockout) blow.

    Nobody is going to be alright after taking a direct hit from a missile, but characters in the game can. Is everyone secretly a superman? Is it because it's a game? Or is it because the tanks are already doing something to survive those kind of hits that other classes can't (deflection, blocking, and parry)?
    The thing about Block and parry is you can't relie on it to act when you want it to act but it does affect how much damage you take from AA and Physical attacks. My shield reduced Ravana's' Blinding blind by 28%, that 28% isn't something you can't push aside. Heck I roll PLD over my DRK when Facing Ravana since his Physical Defense reduction, mainly Shiledtron and Stone Skin help a tone. So in short, Parrying and Blocking dose a alot when fighting foes like Ravana, but Ramuh? naaaa.

    Also about your HP isn't health, If your a healthy person you can be durable. So really it is about health or just what your standard of what the a human can take is, Health durable, kinda same thing.
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    Last edited by Martin_Arcainess; 11-07-2015 at 01:29 AM.

  7. #17
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    SirPhoebos's Avatar
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    My Immersion
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 54
    Whether or not blocking or parrying "makes sense" should really have no bearing in a franchise famous for characters suplexing trains and surviving a star blowing up in their face.

    Mechanically, if PLDs are really supposed to be King Shit of mitigation, then block should work on magic attacks just as well as physical.
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