Bad player etiquette or market board harassment?

[lynn_]

"free mar·ket
noun
an economic system in which prices are determined by unrestricted competition between privately owned businesses."

"privately owned businesses" in this case being the players.

[Ksenia]

I'm seeing mass liquidations on Sarg over various markets at least once a week and my instinct tells me it's another FC theft. I know how long it takes to gather certain things and I know when one person has not gathered what they are selling in large volume.

[Jetstream_Fox]

I'm seeing mass liquidations on Sarg over various markets at least once a week and my instinct tells me it's another FC theft. I know how long it takes to gather certain things and I know when one person has not gathered what they are selling in large volume.

It's not even been just lowly housing items, I seen a player lock out the entire company tabard category by selling from 200k to 700k in one night and on my server that item was going for no less then 900k. The cost of dusk leather alone cost more verses what this player was selling the tabard for.

[Ashkendor]

My questions are how is that even allowed in game? And is this some short or harassment or just bad etiquette? Since it doesn't seem like the player is even trying to make a profit more so saying that they can destroy this sale category out of pure spite or boredness.

Chilled Red is super cheap to make though. As for where they got them all, maybe their FC house was done up as a fancy bar or restaurant and they redecorated. Maybe retainers brought them back. Maybe they just felt like opening a winery, I dunno. I don't see how it's harassment or bad etiquette at all for them to list their items to the market board though. If something isn't selling at the price you have it listed at, you can either shrug and leave it or you can lower the price little by little until the item actually sells. An item is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, so there's not much use in indefinitely leaving items up there that aren't selling.

It's not even been just lowly housing items, I seen a player lock out the entire company tabard category by selling from 200k to 700k in one night and on my server that item was going for no less then 900k. The cost of dusk leather alone cost more verses what this player was selling the tabard for.

I've been running our FC airships nonstop trying to discover the last couple of sectors; after a few weeks of that, I have more Dusk Leather than I know what to do with. I've had some listed on the market board for several days now and they haven't budged. If you get the materials yourself for free instead of buying them, anything you can get for the end product is pure profit. They've probably just been sitting on some leathers for awhile, decided to clean out their retainers, and crafted some stuff to get rid of the junk they have. I do it every so often myself - go into retainer inventory, wonder briefly about where all this crap came from, shrug and haul it all out and figure out what to do with it, whether that be crafting, turning in for expert delivery, or just flat-out npc'ing.

[Seryl199]

It's not even been just lowly housing items, I seen a player lock out the entire company tabard category by selling from 200k to 700k in one night and on my server that item was going for no less then 900k. The cost of dusk leather alone cost more verses what this player was selling the tabard for.

That's not a sustainable selling pattern. Eventually the seller will run out of product. If the price remains low for an extended period of time, then the perceived value for the item is lower than the market value; in other words, people overpriced their items.

People sell low all the time, looking for a fast cash grab, marketing to a wider audience, liquidating product they spent little to no money on. If someone's selling so low it makes your head spin, snap it up and upsell it!

[Malicewolf]

I'm seeing mass liquidations on Sarg over various markets at least once a week and my instinct tells me it's another FC theft. I know how long it takes to gather certain things and I know when one person has not gathered what they are selling in large volume.

well... for FC theft to happen, you need to give said person access to the FC chest. There's a reason there's a ranking system. Only those you trust should be able to take from it. Otherwise, just make the newer members ask a higher ranked member for something if they need it. Also forces newer members to interact with the FC.

As for the etiquette, the scenario you are speaking of isn't that bad of a situation. Just sell cheaper or buy out some of it. Or wait and see if he gets bought out and then you can go back later when it seems more profitable. I've bought out low selling items before and then put them back up at a higher price (like when people drop MB prices from 1000 down to 9 in one fell swoop with high quality items). Nothing wrong with taking advantage of the opportunity if they aren't paying attention. I especially love when I see someone selling an item for less than you can sell the item to vendors. I always buy those regardless. They get the item out of their inventory and I get more money than I spent. Sure, 1 gil ain't much, but it adds up when they stack it or you find multiple instances of this. Sometimes it only takes a week of holding onto it as well for the price to go up and you can make quite the profit.

As a side note, if I notice someone selling things for ridiculous prices, I usually look for said item and gather it. Then sell it for a reasonable price. There's a lot of profit in doing that since there are other's who don't want to pay those prices either. And if the person locking everyone out buys it... well, you still made a profit :P