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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffounz View Post
    They said it's one time weekly token, I think will be the same as gordian manifesto.
    I honestly hope it is like this, a lot of progression players have to wait four weeks per twine from A3S, then if you consider how much time they put into the fight to actually get the clear, it seems really unfair to just give an upgrade per week out to everyone for a 45-60minute raid.

    I'm not against having Coats and Twines drop from the new 24 man, but I think it should be 2-3 weeks of tokens per Coat and 4-6 weeks per Twine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miscreant View Post
    I honestly hope it is like this, a lot of progression players have to wait four weeks per twine from A3S, then if you consider how much time they put into the fight to actually get the clear, it seems really unfair to just give an upgrade per week out to everyone for a 45-60minute raid.

    I'm not against having Coats and Twines drop from the new 24 man, but I think it should be 2-3 weeks of tokens per Coat and 4-6 weeks per Twine.
    So much this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miscreant View Post
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    Wait, are you saying you want them to set it to it takes 4-6 weeks to get one upgrade, without getting others in the process similar to Alexander? Or perhaps you're suggesting that the first two bosses drop accessory tokens and the other two drop left side? If the first one, what? You honestly expect people to subscribe and actively pay $15 a month to upgrade one time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Wait, are you saying you want them to set it to it takes 4-6 weeks to get one upgrade, without getting others in the process similar to Alexander? Or perhaps you're suggesting that the first two bosses drop accessory tokens and the other two drop left side? If the first one, what? You honestly expect people to subscribe and actively pay $15 a month to upgrade one time?
    The Boss tokens is a good idea, 4-6 was a bit ott, I think 1-2 weeks for a Coat and 3 for a Twine would be fair, it's similar to the wait raiders get now.

    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicKirby View Post
    Typically, I feel that after I've completed a raid fight, I can run it through my head in memory, almost like the steps of a dance. The fights heavily rewarded rehearsal and memory. A3S has so many random elements to it that it's hard for me to do this.
    So basically A3 is broken because it has random mechanics? It's just natural progression from various mechanics we have already seen through the Coils and 24mans, just more layered with a dps check, a large portion of it is completely scripted.
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    Last edited by Miscreant; 10-29-2015 at 09:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miscreant View Post
    The Boss tokens is a good idea, 4-6 was a bit ott, I think 1-2 weeks for a Coat and 3 for a Twine would be fair, it's similar to the wait raiders get now.
    3 weeks wouldn't be too bad, but assuming the belt doesn't use a piece you're going to end up at a rather time consuming 12 weeks for the entire left hand side to be done. So, you're geared just in time for the next Alexander raid and you'll replace it almost immediately, doesn't seem like the greatest idea to me to be quite honest. I honestly don't care about ilvls myself, just want it to be dyeable and soon as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miscreant View Post
    The Boss tokens is a good idea, 4-6 was a bit ott, I think 1-2 weeks for a Coat and 3 for a Twine would be fair, it's similar to the wait raiders get now.



    So basically A3 is broken because it has random mechanics? It's just natural progression from various mechanics we have already seen through the Coils and 24mans, just more layered with a dps check, a large portion of it is completely scripted.
    Savage Alex it takes 4 tokens no matter the upgrade item you buy so do you think SE would make it take less tokens if you get the Void Ark Tokens? I am guessing no they wouldn't do that probably still make it take 4 void ark tokens before you get a upgrade item.
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    Last edited by Zumi; 11-01-2015 at 04:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Savage Alex it takes 4 tokens to matter the upgrade item you buy so do you think SE would make it take less tokens if you get the Void Ark Tokens? I am guessing no they wouldn't do that probably still make it take 4 void ark tokens before you get a upgrade item.
    Did the previous CT give 1/4 of a Oil or 1/4 of a Sand per week? Didn't think so. Not gonna happen. Will get full token, just a choice of it not including weapon initially. Also, in Savage, the item itself (gobwhatever) drops, too, NOT just pages.
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