Void Ark to drop Esoteric parts for upgrade why?

[SchalaZeal]

why waste another weapon design on a tier of content that has never dropped weapons and what iLv would those weapons be?

Eso i210 weapons. I don't know what you were thinking I was talking about.

we can get Eso weapon upgrades outside of A4S.

How besides Void Ark not-right-off at 3.1?

[SchalaZeal]

why should players running the Void Ark be treated better?

Because it's meant to catch up by 3.2, not by 3.4.

Doesn't exclude the Alex savage people from getting both, and finally getting their weapon upgrades even without clearing A4S.

[SpookyGhost]

It will likely be 1 week = Coat, 2 week = Twine. If you're stuck on A3S 5 months in after legitimately trying, then... maybe having easier access to Twines outside of A3S will help your group with A3S. It is a catch-up patch after all, Thordan EX is giving out (likely) i205 weapons, so I don't see a reason for them to make it take too long to get Twines from VA.

[Nomad-phx]

Same routine as syrcus tower/wod

[SevenHeavens]

as someone who quit raiding im happy about it

will finally be able to dye all my healer stuff in glorious pink

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I don't get why people are complaining about this now. Has everyone forgotten when ST gave the upgrade items for tomestone gear months after the second coil had it? And then there was the weekly CT quest to get similar items as well. Coil/Alex raids have the incentive of you get a headstart by several months and are likely doing it with people who you are friends with. The catch up version means you won't see it for months until it goes live and you'll have to deal with 23 other people that may or may not be trolling you.

People also complained about their "hard work going to waste" when relics started to be equal to raid weapons. Frankly, I think the whole entire thing sounds like "no one should ever have this unless they suffered like I have", which is also doubly funny cause original relic owners said the same thing when the steps were made easier.

Then again, we are just going to go in circles like we did in 2.0

[CosmicKirby]

I don't get why people are complaining about this now. Has everyone forgotten when ST gave the upgrade items for tomestone gear months after the second coil had it? And then there was the weekly CT quest to get similar items as well. Coil/Alex raids have the incentive of you get a headstart by several months and are likely doing it with people who you are friends with.

I think a key distinction here, is that way, waaaaaaay more players this time around can't complete the raid content because of difficulty. There's an even more polarizing gap in difficulty between what raiders had to go through, and how easy it will be to get through Void Ark/CT.

You don't have to agree with it, but I'm sure you can at least understand why players would be disheartened that a reward so difficult to obtain that they fought months to get it (or haven't even gotten it yet), suddenly becomes passe in an instant.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

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I think a key distinction here, is that way, waaaaaaay more players this time around can't complete the raid content because of difficulty. There's an even more polarizing gap in difficulty between what raiders had to go through, and how easy it will be to get through Void Ark/CT.

You don't have to agree with it, but I'm sure you can at least understand why players would be disheartened that a reward so difficult to obtain that they fought months to get it (or haven't even gotten it yet), suddenly becomes passe in an instant.

What I am saying is all these sorts of things is never going to stay exclusive based on the game's track record. There's always going to be nerfs and catch up patches because you can't assume that A) everyone WILL do the raids or B) everyone can finish the raids quickly enough before they become irrelevant.

[Ibi]

I think a key distinction here, is that way, waaaaaaay more players this time around can't complete the raid content because of difficulty. There's an even more polarizing gap in difficulty between what raiders had to go through, and how easy it will be to get through Void Ark/CT.

The counter-argument being that with waaaaaaay more players unable to clear the raid, it's even more important to make the upgrade items available to those players as soon as possible, especially since they should be done with Esoterics already, leaving that as the main route of gear improvement for them.