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    Felis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Did they say anything about these tokens being rolled for, or like Bismarck and Ravana? I'm hoping it's for the latter, I really don't want to have to grind for not only the weekly Void Ark piece, but the token too.
    It can be like with the upgrade items for poetry gear from CT. A reward from a weekly quest you have to accept before entering the Ark. After finishing the Ark you get automatic a key item and that you give the quest NPC to get your weely upgrade item.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    I'd hope it's not weekly, the game is hurt hard and right now I don't see a weekly restriction being a great idea to bring people back to the game since the idea of having a week to sit and around and stomach the same old content instead of the fresh might put more people out.
    Maybe it is me who feel like this, but during the weekly item periodes i got gears faster than after the weekly lockout got removed.
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    Last edited by Felis; 10-28-2015 at 06:30 PM.

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    Anarista Tarnyang
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    Could've have sworn SE said there will be 2 types of rolls. So you guys will be fine. You can roll for your gear and other loot.
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    I think it must be weekly quest like old CT.
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    I'd hope it's not weekly, the game is hurt hard and right now I don't see a weekly restriction being a great idea to bring people back to the game since the idea of having a week to sit and around and stomach the same old content instead of the fresh might put more people out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    I'd hope it's not weekly, the game is hurt hard and right now I don't see a weekly restriction being a great idea to bring people back to the game since the idea of having a week to sit and around and stomach the same old content instead of the fresh might put more people out.
    Whether it's one item a week because it's tied to a weekly quest or one item a week because it's tied to a weekly lockout is an academic distinction at best. Anyone that's expecting the content to go in with no weekly limit at all is only fooling themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    I'd hope it's not weekly, the game is hurt hard and right now I don't see a weekly restriction being a great idea to bring people back to the game since the idea of having a week to sit and around and stomach the same old content instead of the fresh might put more people out.
    Good thing most people still haven't cleared Savage. Also Island exploration and the new end game Lords of Verminion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    I'd hope it's not weekly, the game is hurt hard and right now I don't see a weekly restriction being a great idea to bring people back to the game since the idea of having a week to sit and around and stomach the same old content instead of the fresh might put more people out.

    Yes because everyone needs full 210 gear NOW! /sarcasm off

    There is literally no reason non raid content should give raid gear. Except to make people who have some kind of complex about not having the best of everything happy. Hell plenty of us don't even bother getting Eso anymore because what is the point in putting alts in 200 gear to do content designed for 160.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Newer players to MMO games will likely draw from their experiences playing FPS games, GTA, Dragon Age, Skyrim, etc.. and they will evaluate a MMO based on that criteria. But other online games (and offline RPGs) are designed to be picked up, played for maybe 5 months and then abandoned for when the next big game comes along. A Veteran MMO gamer knows that the experience of the game is stretched out over years, and if crafted properly, it leaves players with some of the best gaming experiences to be found anywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by kazeandi View Post
    This is the problem most content is solo and you get your group action from a cross-server queueing tool. This is not like older MMOs where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    Yes because everyone needs full 210 gear NOW! /sarcasm off

    There is literally no reason non raid content should give raid gear. Except to make people who have some kind of complex about not having the best of everything happy. Hell plenty of us don't even bother getting Eso anymore because what is the point in putting alts in 200 gear to do content designed for 160.
    Ok, but what reason is there to keep content exclusive to a specific raid when it'll just get outdated in a few months anyway? Might as well open the flood gates.
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    Zosia Twinrova
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Ok, but what reason is there to keep content exclusive to a specific raid when it'll just get outdated in a few months anyway? Might as well open the flood gates.
    Because the content is still current? Less than 2000 people world wide have cleared a4s, and that's not taking into consideration alt teams that many top end raiders use.

    Quote Originally Posted by SchalaZeal View Post
    Did the previous CT give 1/4 of a Oil or 1/4 of a Sand per week? Didn't think so. Not gonna happen. Will get full token, just a choice of it not including weapon initially. Also, in Savage, the item itself (gobwhatever) drops, too, NOT just pages.
    Don't worry, the welfare loot is not going anywhere. You will get it faster and easier than raiders ever did. Even if you have to wait a handful of weeks to trade your tokens in, you will still get that EZ mode twine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miscreant View Post
    Not skilled enough? We've already killed A3S thank you. You get one Coat and Twine per week from Savage, that's split between 8 people. Now if you are a Tank or Healer say goodbye to ever seeing those and get ready to save you pages for 4 weeks per Coat/Twine, then you have to hope your loot drops or else you are loosing six pages before you can even buy a Coat or Twine. I don't have any problem with doing it the long way as gearing DPS is more important, but then if I have to save for 2 months for 2 Twines, it's going to piss me off when some scrub gets one for clearing a faceroll content.

    It's probably going to be more than 12 weeks until 3.2, a clear cut three month wait is far to optimistic for how updates have been recently. But belts are up-gradable with Coats and not Twines, Twines upgrade head, chest, hands, legs and feet.

    That's what I originally said, but then you know...casuals cried
    It's best to just stop caring about this game, that's what I started to do.

    Trying to argue for high expectation and performance to lead to appropriate rewards is lost on this crowd. It's a Sisyphus styled endeavor to try and debate with the casual crowd in this forum.

    Just enjoy this game for the few friends you make, put your head back, sit under the feed pipe, open your mouth and ingest the warm vanilla paste that 90% of this content is like. You will never have work for your meal in this game, unless you want your meal first for a week or two, but eventually you will notice that the meal you worked for is the same slop that the welfare crowd gets for just rolling up to the trough. This game will never be a beacon of MMO gaming.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seiryuukishi View Post
    No one is saying they must be treated better but making it take weeks on end to garner something will make it dead content from the get go. Because, let's be honest here, no one is really after the gear save for those who need a quick fill in or the glamour hoarders. I'd say in all fairness for everyone involved make it one guaranteed token a week for accessories, two for armor and three for weapon. At least that way those that want an out have it within normal parameters.
    It should take weeks, just like it takes raiders weeks to save up pages. Just more special treatment wanted for the special crowd that wants everything for nothing.
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    Last edited by zosia; 10-30-2015 at 03:43 AM.

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    Thy should allow us do CT, ST and WoD again for another token each week.
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