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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    You would think Ranged LB would be stronger since Casters can accurately control where their AoE is placed and thus hit many intended targets, where Ranegd have to kind of guess.

    Though I guess Casters are full DPS jobs and Ranged are DPS/Support jobs. Still, wish they gave Ranged a bit of something else then, like DoT or a status debuff to make it not completely worthless. Maybe given the DPS/support function that MCH and BRD have, making it reduce the target's damage dealt by 10% for 10 seconds would be cool and almost like a DPS/Tank hybrid LB.
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
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    I mean, 2.0 was a completely worthless limit break. I think that's all the new lb was designed to counter; all the "2brd dungeon groups have no lb" complaints and stuff.

    I don't really think this was ever intended to make brd/mch lb competitive with other lb's, but the priority used to be st: melee>caster>nothing, aoe: caster>melee>nothing. Even if phys ranged are at the bottom of the list, they're at least on the list now.
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    Philia Felice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    You would think Ranged LB would be stronger since Casters can accurately control where their AoE is placed and thus hit many intended targets, where Ranegd have to kind of guess.

    Though I guess Casters are full DPS jobs and Ranged are DPS/Support jobs. Still, wish they gave Ranged a bit of something else then, like DoT or a status debuff to make it not completely worthless. Maybe given the DPS/support function that MCH and BRD have, making it reduce the target's damage dealt by 10% for 10 seconds would be cool and almost like a DPS/Tank hybrid LB.
    Well we can at least have the discussion of groups using BLM or BRD/MCH LB with how they balanced them. If it was flipflopped in potency caster LB would be worthless (barring angles you can't hit everything) and caster LB is one of the reasons you even bring a caster in the first place.

    I do wish you could aim the LB properly though, or at least see the lines.
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Well we can at least have the discussion of groups using BLM or BRD/MCH LB with how they balanced them. If it was flipflopped in potency caster LB would be worthless (barring angles you can't hit everything) and caster LB is one of the reasons you even bring a caster in the first place.

    I do wish you could aim the LB properly though, or at least see the lines.
    Even if caster LB was lower damage, it's effective range is just that much better that it's might as well justified for hitting all the targets. The width of ranged LB is so damn pitiful that you're bound to miss 3-4 targets in a 6+ mob pull, espesically with how they "converge and spread" onto the tank. The length amounts for nothing from a practical standpoint except for fracturnal's clockwerks and A1 (and even then caster LB is going to hit them both if you tank them on opposite sides rather than corners)
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