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  1. #11
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    F_Maximillian's Avatar
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    Ferox Maximillian
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    Paladin Lv 70
    It's not something anyone can do but being on controller I think by playing a summoner for a while will better help you as a healer if targeting is an issue. Also, apparently little known but you can hold L1 and use up and down like you do with party members on controller to target based on list order instead of just scrolling left/right. Perhaps if you mastered this style of targeting it would be super easy to transition between holding L! to DPS and letting go to target party members for healing. I understand it being overwhelming at first and like others have mentioned AST/WHM are alot more heal-heavy than scholar is. Most groups with pretty good DPS won't need both healers contributing much DPS to beat enrage timers so I think after some practice you should try WHM again. That said, good that you found something you enjoy in the meantime.
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    Blind Guardian
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    dont use a controller. map cleric stance to Q key. use an embrace macro. Only great players can play their class at 100% efficiency using a controller. Everyone else would be better off using KB/M.
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    Kabz Il
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    Spriggan
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    I think the problem is the mindset that the majority of healers have. I don't get told I need to DPS more in raids, I tell myself that I could be DPSing more at x phase or doing this or that during whatever downtimes. You don't see tanks spamming enmity moves and discarding their DPS abilities, in the same way it's unacceptable for a healer to just stand there idle and not use part of their skillset. Quite frankly I wouldn't have anything to do in fights like A1S as a Scholar if I thought I'm a healer and I will do nothing but heal.

    I wish you all the best on SMN. There's a reason a lot of people state healing as the toughest role.
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    Ahmira Duskbloom
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    Behemoth
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    Dancer Lv 80
    If you want to try your healing again here is my trick that I used in 2.X on WHM and am Maining AST (wile still leveling up stuff more then gearling lol)
    First thing, Write Target Macros for dps spells. Example
    /macroicon "aero"
    /ac "Aero" <t>
    /ac "Aero: <tt>
    Do this for each dos spell you use that requires a target. Once done writting them out, Replace them onto your bars. Now Always focus on your tank, or who needs healing; popping Clerics > dps spells will hit your target's target > Clerics > Heal.

    Additionally, if you are having issues with targeting party members, use the defaulted number pad 8 to move up the party list 2 to move down it. 4 (left) and 6 (right) will allow you to switch though visible enemy nameplates, if you need that too This doesn't target pets, but really your medica II will cover them most times. I no longer heal using a mouse, as being AST I need to swiftly target other players constantly for a single ability (card effects or tossing my regen on them) after casting a spell, you automatically retarget your default which should be the tank. If unchanged keybinds, F1-F8 will target individual members permanently. My party is set to have Tanks as F2 and F3 (if there are 2 tanks) this means I can quickly reset my target without having to click on them.

    One other tip I've started doing again (use to do it in WOW) is making the party bars by my character, so Since I watch that list like a hawk (focus for boss is right above the list), It enables me to easily see mechanics. Coupled with the targeting macros, it makes healing not so bad in chaotic fights. If you tunnel vision your party list, you see your feet still (and likely the boss focus if you set it for cast bars) and with the macros, you never have to target the enemies; so you dont have to worry as much about that DPS chaos so much as Cleric > Dots and/or spam > Clerics and back to healing while never loosing Healer's Focus.

    Sorry I rambled, hope something above might help if you loved healing as much as I did in WOW and keeping at it here.
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    Last edited by Asheilin; 10-27-2015 at 09:47 AM.

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    Sora Kysuke
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    Scholar Lv 90
    You got much respect from me for realizing why SCH doesn't work for you, but bring pro-SCH, I would hope you still like the job enough to play even if it's not in endgame content. There is a lot of helpful advice that I've read above if you find yourself wanting to give it a go again but don't be completely discouraged. like scob and fcob, you'll need to play as a job that you enjoy most in a highly demanding situation for and extended period so just go with what job you feel most comfortable with under such circumstances.
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    Maria Nyan
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Sorry, dont give me that im a victim of the current meta crap, especially whm who can soloheal, yes just heal 99%. Oh wait regen plus divine seal on tank, dots and thats it. Look a2s elysium, soloheal and sch into gobwalker. Theres plently of examples that heal only, but they perform so well i couldnt do better. Get over the meta and do it yourself then hearing other newbs talking about how to play your class, because if you believe this, go ahead ang quit healing, if thats your extent of resolve. #getgood
    Ps: if this is too much go watch "dont let dreams be dreams, just do it".
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Eh it just takes some time to get used to it....

    Me personally I said f it and just threw myself in the fire all the time, I was terrified of healing when I hit 60 cause most of the content calls for the healer to contribute so I tossed myself in a bis ex party and had a hard time at first but eventually I was healing, dps'n and hitting the DKs in time....I can't say the same for savage cause I haven't been in yet but from what I see it doesn't seem to really get too tough until A3s.

    A lot of ppl think healing is hard but it's more so about building a thick skin, you will mess up a lot trying to get it right and a lot of players will be upset but just apologize and continue to try...but don't give up nothing is worse then someone giving up on something they really like just to do something that's easier just practice more and don't stop healing cause of a couple hick-ups.
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    Viviza Viza
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    The healer meta is to heal. That's it. Healers only have to contribute damage on content that's being completed undergeared and the DPS alone can't best the enrage mechanic.

    If someone bitches about you not DPSing in a trial or dungeon, feel free to kick that person for harassment. There is absolutely 0 obligation for a healer to DPS in ANY content other than bleeding edge raids.
    With this line of thinking, a paladin only has to flash until threat is established, then can spam /dance until the pull is over.

    Kick anyone who disagrees for harassment.
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I dont mind DPS as a healer
    The only exhausting things is the stance dancing which force you to know when you can DPS and when you have to go back healing
    Because it give 2 job to do healing and DPS

    Thats why a healer is not forces to DPS... Because it means 2 role for one character (and one mana pool i would say)

    ...

    I did run some alex1 normal mode where I, as scholar, had to heal the tank AND kill the adds under the laser because it was too difficult for the DPS
    I laugh so much, especially when DPS were congratulations themself for the down...
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viviza View Post
    With this line of thinking, a paladin only has to flash until threat is established, then can spam /dance until the pull is over.

    Kick anyone who disagrees for harassment.

    ...Yeah, use the weakest enmity move in the game and have everything peeling off you, then get kicked for trolling.

    A better analogy would be for PLD to spam RoH combo in sword oath for single targets.
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