"This is my playstyle" is a poor argument for being bad.

[TouchandFeel]

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That's exactly what I was talking about

Instead of just making excuses or giving up, you acknowledge your limitations and are actively trying to find a way to work around or overcome them. You are trying to not let your situation hold you back.

It's by recognizing and acknowledging our shortcomings and striving to be better that we create strengths from weaknesses.

[Welsper59]

Had 2 bards yesterday in nevereap and none of them wanted to use wanderer's minuet. But they sure as hell used foe requiem on every monsters they could see even though we did not have any magical dpsers. I mean, I understand WM isn't their favorite skill right now, but a 50 minutes run in nevereap is never a good thing.

So yeah, I agree with op.

Even without WM (and the pointless use of Requiem if healer isn't DPSing), there's a bigger problem going on if their total output was so poor it took 50min.

[Almalexia]

The whole "git gud" thing is starting to wear out its welcome, can we come up with something better by now?

git betta?

[TouchandFeel]

git betta?

Okay, done. Now what?

[Archaell]

Okay, done. Now what?

Now just add caption: "I am a fish" ... The average FFXIV player.

[Khemorex]

i dont care :P its just a game? :P

[TouchandFeel]

Now just add caption: "I am a fish" ... The average FFXIV player.

Oh come on now, that's not very nice.
I don't think the fish deserve to be insulted like that ;D

[Archaell]

Oh come on now, that's not very nice.
I don't think the fish deserve to be insulted like that ;D

I wasn't thinking as much about the fish itself as about Rimmer from the Red Dwarf series who was constantly failing his exams while writing " I am a fish" on the exam papers.

I guess caption "I am an ice mage" would do the same thing in our context.

[Averax]

Yeah, in WoW, if you failed so terribly to do your actual rotation you'd be kicked without a word to tell you why.

I don't know where the "I play to have fun so i'm going to be an <ice mage/ruin summoner/fairyless scholar/etc...>" attitude comes from. I had a conversation with my FC leader about it and she told me that i was sounding elitist for expecting people to perform their job correctly in group content.

I don't care what you do on your own, but in a group i expect people to do what they're supposed to be doing. This isn't a play your way MMO.

As for fresh 60 tanks who think that they can take on the whole dungeon in a single pull while in dps stance, i've noticed that if they die horribly, they'll take the hint that they are not gods.

[Archaell]

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Welcome to the FFXIV, where you can play how ever you want to play - as long as you don't tell others how they should play.

If you like to clear content in reasonable amount of time, or if you dislike failing at it... too bad.

Some players just can't grasp what words like "team effort" and "contribution" mean.

We should have The Ice Mage Day or something to illustrate how would things look like if everybody cared only about themselves.