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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    Personally I see RDM as Discipline of Magic Caster DPS with a focus on proximity and placement to mobs. A mix of Melee combos and ranged Spell rotations. A gap closer and a gap maker. Throw in a 60-90 recast CD that buffs the ranged spell drastically (but requires range away from target to fully buff the ability like BRD/MCH's DPS in PVP), so RDM use the gap maker to move away from the target and do a spell rotation then gap-close back to the target.

    tl;dr: a caster that's max dps is dependent on them moving around - not standing still and turrenting (I agree with the hat comment)

    Back to OP. If SE were to ever make another dual job class again like Arcanist, I can really see it being a 'Swordsman' class into Samurai and Sword Master. Sword Master is a bit of a Tactics Orge shout out but then again that's where many FF classes originate anyway.

    Other than that obvious pick, Beastmaster?? That'd be a hard job to make into a tank, but man it'd be neat if they could pull that off
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Xenosan View Post
    Back to OP. If SE were to ever make another dual job class again like Arcanist, I can really see it being a 'Swordsman' class into Samurai and Sword Master. Sword Master is a bit of a Tactics Orge shout out but then again that's where many FF classes originate anyway.
    What? I'm pretty certain its the other way around... The first Ogre game (Ogre Battle) was in '93 and FFIII was in '90 and FFV was in '92.
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    Deneb Algiedi
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    What? I'm pretty certain its the other way around... The first Ogre game (Ogre Battle) was in '93 and FFIII was in '90 and FFV was in '92.
    Yasumi Matsuno, the creator of the Tactics game, worked at Quest for the Ogre Battle series and joined Square in 1995. There, he created FFT, Vagrant Story, FFTA, and FFXII before leaving in 2006 for freelance work and the whole JP Arteur thing.

    What can I say? I'm a big fan of his work.

    On topic: We have enough swords already. Samurai makes a lot of sense as a tank, more so than RDM at least. I think both could work though, and I think there's a definite niche both jobs could fill in the current meta. There is a lot of lore reasons to throw RDM in to the dps support pile, but you could make an argument either way (especially if its based on the mystic knight and spellblade variants). Not so sure about Geomancer as casting gets interrupted by damage and isn't great for a tank (instant cast spells are a work-around), and we already have a very good magic tank with DRK.
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    Last edited by Anova; 10-27-2015 at 04:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anova View Post
    Yasumi Matsuno, the creator of the Tactics game, worked at Quest for the Ogre Battle series and joined Square in 1995. There, he created FFT, Vagrant Story, FFTA, and FFXII before leaving in 2006 for freelance work and the whole JP Arteur thing.

    What can I say? I'm a big fan of his work.
    Wasn't dissing him or anything but was reacting with confusion to the claim that the Ogre series was the origin of many FF classes when the main "job" Final Fantasies predate the series by 1 and 3 years. The only Job that can say it originated in the Ogre series is Mechanist.
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