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    Glamour Catalog - This is Why We Can't Have Nice Things...

    I'd absolutely LOVE a response from SE about this, other than "if we could, we would". Especially since so many people have offered up great suggestions. Not holding my breath though.

    I don't think it's as simple as "buy more retainers and pad our pockets trololol!" - they've already said retainers are stored on a separate server and the "upload data every 15 seconds" doesn't apply to them so of course they can afford to expand their inventory. Even though I don't agree with it, their temporary fix to "buy more retainers" is kind of a win-win -- we get extra inventory for the time being, they get some pocket change.


    Other people have mentioned other MMOs like GW2 and such that handle inventory differently - but do they funnel character data to the server every 15 seconds? Is there more or less character data to juggle? (I haven't played it so I'm asking honestly). These systems may have been able to handle it because 1) They're not working with older console limitations, and 2) They're not working with old, less-than-optimized code from the 1.0 era, and 3) Their servers probably aren't juggling as many data queries as ours are. Those would be my guesses.

    Personally I'd like to see the glamour catalog handled in the same way as the hairstylist except instead of hair types, you have all the armor set pieces you've gotten until now. Bonus points if it tells you which part you're missing and what dungeon it drops from.

    I think SE knows how much we want this, but like everything we ask for, they want to make sure they do it right and that takes time. I was shocked that the HW launch went so well. I was expecting massive server issues and it went, for the most part, flawlessly compared to other expansions. So I've got no problem with them taking time to get it right.

    I still want that metallic purple dye though.
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    Last edited by Stormfur; 10-26-2015 at 11:25 PM. Reason: Ride Ze Shopoof?

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    They did give a response in the live letter.

    Q18: Do you have plans to implement a feature, such as a book that records items you have obtained once, and you can drop that item but still use it for glamour? With this feature it’ll free up the inventory space.

    A18: Yoshida: We have no plans for this. We would increase the inventory space if this was possible.
    You're not going to get anything else out of them.
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    I know...but if they can add 800+ items per patch... I guess I don't understand why one can be extended but not the other.
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    This is bullsh!t. SE could do it, but then people would stop buying extra retainers. 15-year-old FFXI could save gear sets without clogging up our inventory through their Gear-Slip NPC. Are they saying their 15-year-old FFXI can manage inventory better than FFXIV? I don't believe it! SE is just trying to keep their most profitable cash shop item on the mog-station. Greedy!!! -_-

    "you can play multiple jobs on 1 character!.... if you buy 6 extra retainers" I can barely Manage playing 2 battle jobs, 3 crafting, and 2 DoL at a time with the default inventory space we are provided..

    here's a thought; Could we have Rare-Ex Alexadrite/Atmas/Pots of ushuri be treated like the Key-Items that they are? and have them be stored in our almost always empty Key-Items inventory?
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    Last edited by Enthy; 10-27-2015 at 02:03 AM.

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    I have been saying this for a while - that 15s backup of everyone's entire inventory is utterly asinine. I'm really not sure why they can't seem to spot that and do something about it. There are ways to do away with it, ways that have been suggested already. And when their entire network seems to be under such huge stress all the time as they claim... yeah, it's high time to get rid of that, it apparently isn't viable at this scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    I have been saying this for a while - that 15s backup of everyone's entire inventory is utterly asinine. I'm really not sure why they can't seem to spot that and do something about it. There are ways to do away with it, ways that have been suggested already. And when their entire network seems to be under such huge stress all the time as they claim... yeah, it's high time to get rid of that, it apparently isn't viable at this scale.
    Maybe they should upgrade their wooden servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthy View Post
    This is bullsh!t. SE could do it, but then people would stop buying extra retainers. 15-year-old FFXI could save gear sets without clogging up our inventory through their Gear-Slip NPC. Are they saying their 15-year-old FFXI can manage inventory better than FFXIV? I don't believe it! SE is just trying to keep their most profitable cash shop item on the mog-station. Greedy!!! -_-"you can play multiple jobs on 1 character!.... if you buy 6 extra retainers" I can barely Manage playing 2 battle jobs, 3 crafting, and 2 DoL at a time with the default inventory space we are provided..

    here's a thought; Could we have Rare-Ex Alexadrite/Atmas/Pots of ushuri be treated like the Key-Items that they are? and have them be stored in our almost always empty Key-Items inventory?
    As you pointed out, they won't be able to charge people for extra services then. It benefits SE to make stuff like the pots of ushuri or manifesto pages take up space in your inventory.
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    So is basically we can't get inventory space freed up unless we pay for it? Doesn't make sense to me...
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    Git gud at inventory management? If people are to lazy just buy retainers its not even expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    Git gud at inventory management? If people are to lazy just buy retainers its not even expensive.
    And pray tell, how does one "git gud" (I died a little on the inside typing that lol) at managing glamour items? It is players fault that they release a TON of glamour stuff but then not the space for it? Are we supposed to simply toss it and not use it..thus making the devs work redundant or pay for extra features in an already P2P game? Interesting logic there my friend.

    I refuse to give them more money for something that FREE TO PLAY GAMES even have at a ONE TIME COST. I have never seen any MMO have players "Rent" space then cry that their servers can't handle anything. Especially one that boasts "Join 5 million adventures worldwide" -_-
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