Abysmally low exp issues need to be addressed.

[Bearforce]

This really needs to be addressed, My character is level 33 Gladiator. This patch nerfed damage output of this class a lot to the point where it takes an average of 20 min or so to complete a level 30 guild leve was closer to about 10 min each pre patch.

For that 20 min I get around 2k exp seeing as now it takes 50k to level for a total of about 4% of your level per leve.

Something has to be done getting 4% of your current level is unacceptable. It takes about 500 mins which is 8.3 hours per level of mindless grinding to finish all of just level 33. It only gets worse as you get higher level with higher amounts of exp needed to level.

I know if you have a high level to run you though leves you can level much faster but you aren't always going to have someone to run you through stuff.

FFXIV still offers no LFG search function or any kind of search UI making it very difficult to make a group which may result in faster exp. In FFXI for example you could put up a exp LFG flag and other people wanting to form a exp party could see who was seeking party and ask them to join. So often soloing your exp is only way to go.

Overall in patch 1.19 the game still feels so grindy to level and reach the cap. The way MMO market is today most people do not consider grinding exp content. Its what you do when you get to the cap that is the real content mostly endgame dungeons, raids, bosses. The more interesting content that isn't leveling.

If people fell like they can't make much progress leveling their characters and it feels like a grind fest they won't want to play FFXIV.

But I have also try leveling in a duo. My friend and I did try to duo some leves we set it to 2 stars it was too difficult that we would die because the enemies were +3 levels, so we had to set it down to 1 star. He is a healer conjurer, and I was gladiator. The mobs would basically 2 shot him because his HP was low and AoE tanking in this game is pretty non existent. I can use circle blade my only AoE skill but he will pull so much threat from me by healing that even provoke won't keep mobs targeting me. So yea set it back down to 1 star. Now then whats worse is this actually gave us less exp then solo and took about the same amount of time.

In the end we were like screw this its just not worth it the time invested for the exp rewarded. Stopped trying to do the leves.

Leveling needs to be a lot faster then it is currently especially when solo to get more people interested in playing FFXIV. If FFXIV had a motto it would be "Enjoy the exp grind" That really needs to change.

welcome to japanese mmo where word Grind is applied to every aspect in this game

[Zenaku]

welcome to japanese mmo where word Grind is applied to every aspect in this game

News flash did you not know that grind is part of games? why the hell to ppl keep thinking that it's not? for that SE should make 2 servers 1 for people who want to level and 1 for people who not and soon they join you have everything 50....

[Zumi]

News flash did you not know that grind is part of games? why the hell to ppl keep thinking that it's not? for that SE should make 2 servers 1 for people who want to level and 1 for people who not and soon they join you have everything 50....

Grinding boring quests for hours isn't really content but its just that a grind to make up for having so little real content. Go play any NA MMO and you will probably see you can get several levels for each play session. Usually capping isn't that hard because they actually want you to get to the level cap to experience what the game has to offer.

[Zenaku]

Grinding boring quests for hours isn't really content but its just that a grind to make up for having so little real content. Go play any NA MMO and you will probably see you can get several levels for each play session. Usually capping isn't that hard because they actually want you to get to the level cap to experience what the game has to offer.

Speak for yourself that i play WoW what is content? doing the same boring dungeon/quest over and over and raids? sorry but level up is the most fun part about a MMO once you reach the end it's all become a job be here at this time and for this long and maybe you get what you want.

Not everyone think endgame is the fun part of the game i love endgame but level up with friend is also fun but once you reach endgame they have to be some fun part in it or it get boring fast.

[Zenaku]

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I'm not a fanboy i just know what i like and been knowing for many years of playing MMO stop thinking you know a person when you really don't so get over that.

[Bearforce]

I'm not a fanboy i just know what i like and been knowing for many years of playing MMO stop thinking you know a person when you really don't so get over that.

then your opinion =/= facts

[Nuru]

Grinding boring quests for hours isn't really content but its just that a grind to make up for having so little real content. Go play any NA MMO and you will probably see you can get several levels for each play session. Usually capping isn't that hard because they actually want you to get to the level cap to experience what the game has to offer.

The game has shit to offer even at lower levels. Getting to cap isn't the point of any game. The point of games is to have fun with them, and if getting to endgame = fun then that is your desire, and not everyone elses. Leveling plays a huge factor in any MMORPG as its the ticket to certain events. No matter how long it takes to level, it is going to be there and there will always be an easy way and a hard way to do it.

[Betelgeuzah]

Grinding boring quests for hours isn't really content but its just that a grind to make up for having so little real content. Go play any NA MMO and you will probably see you can get several levels for each play session.

So NA MMO's don't make up with grind for having so little real content, essentially having nothing to hold people over for longer than few weeks at best, while Asian MMO's do make up for it. Who knows which is the healthier approach....

OP: Guildleves are a decent source of gil, EXPing is faster using other means.

[Preypacer]

Grinding boring quests for hours isn't really content but its just that a grind to make up for having so little real content. Go play any NA MMO and you will probably see you can get several levels for each play session. Usually capping isn't that hard because they actually want you to get to the level cap to experience what the game has to offer.

See... this is a classic example of how people confuse their own subjective opinion with objective fact.

Quests are content. Leves are content. GC missions are content. Crafting is content. And so on, and so on...

Every single activity you can partake in, from 1 to 50, in FFXIV is content. Anything the game offers for you to do that entails your character doing something (within the terms of service), such as quests, is content by definition. If you're a role-player, then even role-playing with a group of friends could be considered Content.

To be clear: Content isn't "only the things Zumi likes" - or anyone else for that matter.

That you personally do not enjoy any one, or all of those activities and would rather skip past or fly through them does not make them any less so and it is not a case at all, much less a good case, for making leveling faster so, Zumi can get through it all faster.

Now, clearly you (and others) feel that invoking the presumed agreement of "many others" makes your opinion more "right"... It doesn't. What you're using there is a logical fallacy referred to as argumentum ad populum... an appeal to popularity. Only in this case, you can't even truly claim to speak for many others. You merely presume to, to bolster your own opinions.

Further, given your statement about "getting multiple levels in any NA MMO for any play session"... very deceptive and disingenuous statement wrapped in far too much generalization.

The first, and biggest problem: You don't qualify how long a play session is. Is it an hour? Two hours? Three hours? Ten hours? Your entire assertion is based on an undefined parameter, which happens to be the basis for the assertion itself. It's really poorly thought out argumentation at best. It's deliberately deceptive at worst.

If you're level 1, you can certainly get several levels inside your first couple hours (including cut-scenes, etc).
If you're level 30 and are playing for 10 hours, you can certainly get a few levels...
If you're level 50 and only playing for 1 hour, no... you're not going to get "a few levels per play session".
And on and on and on...

If all you prefer is the end game, then do what your type always does and plan out "the most efficient path to level cap" so you can bask in the glory that is currently a few dungeons and a Primal battle. I won't be at all surprised if you're back on these forums before long complaining of being bored 'cause there's "not enough to do at end game".