So its 0-2 in the male female glamour department, yay?

[Welsper59]

I'm as salty as the ocean over the lack of male glamors and blatant female favoritism. Am I a minority? Yes, I accept that. Does that mean I'll stop trying to get more fair glamour options? No. A thousand times no. If I stop talking about it, if I stop asking about it, if I stop caring about it enough to get it is when I stop playing the game.

For me, glamours are one of the biggest things keeping me interested. Should I have to be female to have the same number of options? No. And I shouldn't have to change my gender to have access to them.

I think what needs to be considered though are the following:

- Are you looking at this purely from numbers or from what is actually something you'd be interested in? Dressing up like Minfillia as a male character, for example. I'd probably do that for the shits and giggles.
- What exactly constitutes "male" glamour that doesn't already exist? More bucket armor isn't exactly unique to the game. Nor do those things scream MALE (BOYS) ONLY!

[Sentaryuu]

Obviously no one cares about those who play male characters, and no, I would not change my character's gender just so I could have access to some of the female glamours. I chose him for a reason. I, too wish there were more male glamours, but I'll make do with what we have currently and hopefully one day we get something that I would want. There isn't much at the moment that I even want for mine and we didn't even get pants for the seasonal outfit, which I find very dumb. I wouldn't mind some bunny ears for the males, because I personally think mine would look nice with it. The only "bunny ears" we get is the Spriggan Cap, and both males and females can wear that. Though I, too don't agree that the Minfllia oufit shouldn't be in MogStation, but what can we do? And not sure why we didn't get pants for the Halloween gearset.

[Ulfhade]

I think what needs to be considered though are the following:

- Are you looking at this purely from numbers or from what is actually something you'd be interested in? Dressing up like Minfillia as a male character, for example. I'd probably do that for the shits and giggles.
- What exactly constitutes "male" glamour that doesn't already exist? More bucket armor isn't exactly unique to the game. Nor do those things scream MALE (BOYS) ONLY!

Honestly, I'm looking at this as purely numbers. I don't find the Gold Saucer male only set very attractive, but its male only (Only the Oasis and Riviera though, the Gambler is of course unisex) as a counter to their female only sets (all three are female only), and I find the two fair. Third one, not at all. While I'd prefer to have both gender options as unisex, I accept a male only and female only option. That's fair.

For male glamours, I mean items that are male only such as the Bohemian set, Oasis set, ect. Not anything that is masculine or feminine, but equipable to male characters.

[Cidel]

I have a theory for why there's an alarming imbalance of Female to Male gender-locked glamour sets, here's that theory:





I regret nothiiiiiiiiiiing!




...And it happens basically every new glamour patch....

[raymon]

why is their always people who say the whole issue is people want males to wear dresses? (which by the way are already in game)
its more about having just as many options as players who role as females.

[RyuRoots]

What I find fascinating is how *quickly* this became a big issue (apparently). That seems to happen any time a male population isn't favored or is even the most miniscule bit less favored. Funny how that works.

[Serilda]

What I find fascinating is how *quickly* this became a big issue (apparently). That seems to happen any time a male population isn't favored or is even the most miniscule bit less favored. Funny how that works.

People have been complaining about this on and off for months. It just so happens that they've delivered a double whammy of disappointments in the last few weeks which have brought the matter to a head - we have about 16 extra female-biased items in the game now and they effectively announced that would rise to at least 25 in 3.1, going by the pictures and skipping the hair. Of course we're upset about that. Keeping quiet hasn't helped bring the matter to their attention, evidently.

And uh, if you're implying something about real life sexism, please remember that character gender and real life gender are not necessarily the same thing. If anything, this entire problem is caused by good old fashioned male-orientated fan service driving the designers to make lots of cute, sexy costumes for girls to wear (as depicted in the comic above). Several of the threads have been made by female gamers who want equal opportunity fan service for their male characters; it's not very fair to keep that from them just because of the way things work in the real world, is it?

[Dualgunner]

For everyone who's talking about pure numbers, here's the Eorzea Census 2015 of Gender Distribution:



http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...e8ff1bcf34c5ae

[SchalaZeal]

And uh, if you're implying something about real life sexism, please remember that character gender and real life gender

Yeah, the ratio in most combat-oriented MMOs like Final Fantasy, Everquest, World of Warcraft, is somewhere between 75/25 or 82/18 male/female. Male players just seem to have less of an issue playing female characters than the reverse, for some reason. It's almost as if the "this world favors men all the time" feminist trope is actually not true for pretty much most of relevant life. It could be true for the 1% of wall street people who try to make the poor poorer, but I'm not with them to know if they treat their males like kings and their females like paupers.

[Mug]

What I find fascinating is how *quickly* this became a big issue (apparently). That seems to happen any time a male population isn't favored or is even the most miniscule bit less favored. Funny how that works.

Let's not look for sexism where there is none. Especially considering you don't have to actually be the sex of the character you're playing in this game.

Besides, every aspect of this game *quickly* becomes an issue, lol.