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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    Actually yes i do, if males want more outfits more power to them, But female outfits fit females only for a reason, if that is your thing in real life that is your business but SEs knows cross dressing will never be accepted in this game. and understand why they do favor female outfits more.
    Cool, this thread isn't actually about cross dressing (which is already accepted in the game) so you're among friends here. Let's aim for equal numbers of outfits for everyone together.

    P.S. Thanks for bumping the thread too
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  2. #122
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    Umm, I dunno, it's kinda hard for me to think of a men' outfit that can't be worn by women, SE must think very very hard to design some outfits to please people who want male exclusive outfits.
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by AriaEnia View Post
    Umm, I dunno, it's kinda hard for me to think of a men' outfit that can't be worn by women, SE must think very very hard to design some outfits to please people who want male exclusive outfits.
    Well, they can either do this or just unlock the existing (and future) female-only pieces, either works. It depends on how much they want to modify them. For example, the bunny costumes can be changed to Chippendale-style outfits which have exactly the same real world connotations but for the opposite sex, and most of the art assets for this already exist on the female outfit or other pieces. The entire Thavnairian Bustier set has had a plethora of fan art with reasonable adjustments to make it suit a more masculine aesthetic and it works pretty well.

    Pieces like the Kirimu Coat, when viewed first on a male character, obviously needed some modifications to make them wearable by female characters without wardrobe malfunctions taking place, and pieces like the Evenstar top/stockings were adjusted to fit the team's vision of how male attire should work. That's acceptable, and much better than gender locking pieces without giving the other side something in return. There are a lot of items which have been adjusted to suit the opposite sex better before this recent trend of locking everything away without considering balance.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    Well, they can either do this or just unlock the existing (and future) female-only pieces, either works. It depends on how much they want to modify them. For example, the bunny costumes can be changed to Chippendale-style outfits which have exactly the same real world connotations but for the opposite sex, and most of the art assets for this already exist on the female outfit or other pieces. The entire Thavnairian Bustier set has had a plethora of fan art with reasonable adjustments to make it suit a more masculine aesthetic and it works pretty well.

    Pieces like the Kirimu Coat, when viewed first on a male character, obviously needed some modifications to make them wearable by female characters without wardrobe malfunctions taking place, and pieces like the Evenstar top/stockings were adjusted to fit the team's vision of how male attire should work. That's acceptable, and much better than gender locking pieces without giving the other side something in return. There are a lot of items which have been adjusted to suit the opposite sex better before this recent trend of locking everything away without considering balance.
    To be honest, the male outfits that are unisex are hardly modified much. The main difference is usually chest covering on the more bare chested sets. Your not really asking for males to wear the female sets but a whole set of new models for the males.

    Plus there are still gender locked gear that is male only. I know cause Id love a female version of a few of my character. There are very few sleeveless tops that aren't bikinis for female characters.
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Plus there are still gender locked gear that is male only. I know cause Id love a female version of a few of my character. There are very few sleeveless tops that aren't bikinis for female characters.
    We know this though.

    What people are asking for is for Square-Enix to stop blatantly favoring females when it comes to gender specific glamour gear.

    If you compared the amount of female only to male only gear, you'll realize there's a huge discrepancy between the two.
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  6. #126
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    As an IRL female who likes to play as a male character, I find this so irritating. Every time this happens, I want to fantasia to a female character just to wear and enjoy the new female glamours that come out for while--but I don't want to play as a cat girl permanently, and I hate that I can't enjoy glamouring as much if I play the gender of character I want to play. T^T

    I just don't understand how they haven't gotten the message from their player base yet: if you're going to make gender-locked gear, make one for each gender every time. If you've got the resources to design all these girls' outfits, you can take a little bit more time and make a male outfit too. It's so tiring to get excited about new outfits only to find out time and again that my character can't wear them...
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    but SEs knows cross dressing will never be accepted in this game.
    You KEEP repeating this, and people keep telling you it's already perfectly possible to crossdress in this game, and you just repeat it again in your next post. When I get home, I'm going to take some screenshots for you; maybe visual aides will help it sink in.

    We're not upset because SE won't let us crossdress, because they absolutely do. We're upset because they're giving us (people who want to look at male characters) less stuff(than people who want to look at female characters).
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    Blood-Aki has to be a troll. Is there a way to report someone who doesn't contribute discussions and just wants to stir the pot? It feels to me like Donald Trump or the Phelps fundies going to a LGBT rally/parade/event and calling people names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchalaZeal View Post
    Blood-Aki has to be a troll. Is there a way to report someone who doesn't contribute discussions and just wants to stir the pot? It feels to me like Donald Trump or the Phelps fundies going to a LGBT rally/parade/event and calling people names.
    Like you? the irony is strong in this one, also, we're still living in that age where troll=someone who disagrees with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchalaZeal View Post
    Blood-Aki has to be a troll. Is there a way to report someone who doesn't contribute discussions and just wants to stir the pot? It feels to me like Donald Trump or the Phelps fundies going to a LGBT rally/parade/event and calling people names.
    Well, you can report posts by clicking on that yellow triangle with the exclamation mark ath the bottom right corner of it (just under the profile details). Other than that, we do have a blacklist here too, although here it's named Ignore. But yeah, they do seem to extract bits of posts that don't even make the actual point and just argue them for the sake of arguing.
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