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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by zaviermhigo View Post
    I would like to know how it affects people too. I mean I know I'm against pl'ing a character past 20, for reasons that that character is gimp and hasn't learned to play the game, but that doesn't mean it affects me, I'm just against it. I would never go as far to say that it was ruining or the game or my gaming experience. If you were trying to go party in a cave in limsa and a party was there, would you start a forum saying "Partying ruined my gaming experience" probably not. So thanks OP for this topic, I look forward to people trying to tell you how it affects them based on no logic at all.

    My server has high population, you're more likely to get a /tell asking for pl-gil exchange then you are to hear shouts. Maybe the people on other servers have no class. Most pl'ing I would say on the server is done via ls. Was on today for 3 hours only shouts I heard were for leveling groups.


    Pl'ing makes me a lil jealous, it makes me think damn I tried to level when I could during multiple semesters (since CE basically) and now my 50 means nothing to these guys who just raced on up pl'ing. But that doesn't affect the game that just demotivates me personally sometimes and makes me not want to play. So it first has an affect on the players, which produces and effect on the game. Get what I'm saying. Lets just tell it like it is that our feelings are kinda hurt, its not bitchy, it doesn't make you look like a pu$$y, its the truth. Till then its like many a wise black man (black myself people are jumpy) has said -it is what it is
    how does it affects people? you farming for items for craft oh look powerlevel killing everything want to level a low level job oh look a powerlevel. Trying to solo oh look a powerlevel it may not affects you right now but it does too everyone who trying to level i can't find one camp without a powerlevel in it or they just come and take it from you.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    how does it affects people? you farming for items for craft oh look powerlevel killing everything want to level a low level job oh look a powerlevel. Trying to solo oh look a powerlevel it may not affects you right now but it does too everyone who trying to level i can't find one camp without a powerlevel in it or they just come and take it from you.
    We're on the same server so it must be the time you log on because I've been able to9 find camps all week. Even if there is a pl'er there I usually ask, "hey do you mind" and they'll go off and do they're own thing completely unaffected. Seriously people who've played this game since CE have stolen mobs from me and griefed me harder than the pls. I've had mobs stolen from me more from people I know then pls groups. Now leeching that different, if you remember the Zatarak party we were in Zen, remember the leech? I just for some reason that leech pisses me off more than the pl. Just saying, there's 7 people in a party doing work, and one person low level just leeching. Its better if its one person pl, and like 1 leech, but 7 people doing work and 1 leech is just selfish. I'm not saying pling is bad but you know most of the people on this forum are inventing reasons why its bad. If you say "yeah too many pl at camps I can't party" then I can say "oh wow that does affect your game play experience" but most people won't admit they haven't been affected and that they just don't like it. Why can't people admit that they don't like it for personal reasons. The average person hates it because it makes their 50 feel worthless, and their not saying it. If people actually gave examples, screen shots and such, like with rmt, maybe people would start to say "ok this is affecting the game" but no one gives good examples and everyone in just bitching.


    tldr: be more like zenaku and actually give examples, don't just come on here saying "IT RUINS THE GAME" and give no reason why. He gave an example and people will read it and go "yeah i wouldn't like if that happened to me"...the sheer bitching of these three threads on pl has actually outweighed examples, pictures, proof, or constructive suggestions.
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    Last edited by zaviermhigo; 10-13-2011 at 11:21 AM.

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    I think its going to get stopped for sure. They need to make a new system that gives max level players a meaning to play with their friends, or level sync with them or something. Not destroy the experience of developing a character over a long period of time...

    I agree with you TC i think they're needs to be more threads destroying the terrible logic that it doesn't affect anyone. Clearly it makes people upset so why not get rid of it? The number of people its upsetting is outweighing the number of people that are giving the game a chance because of it, and even if more people are getting into it because they can now have a free max level, can SE really trust those players to stick around once the game goes p2p?

    I hope it gets rectified in 1.19a if it doesn't i at least expect an answer so i can know if the dev team really is this stubborn and move on to another game.
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    For those who aren't keeping up with the forums....This is being addressed in 1.19a. There will still be plvl but not where you can go afk.

    Don't know why these threads are still going.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by zaviermhigo View Post
    We're on the same server so it must be the time you log on because I've been able to9 find camps all week. Even if there is a pl'er there I usually ask, "hey do you mind" and they'll go off and do they're own thing completely unaffected. Seriously people who've played this game since CE have stolen mobs from me and griefed me harder than the pls. I've had mobs stolen from me more from people I know then pls groups. Now leeching that different, if you remember the Zatarak party we were in Zen, remember the leech? I just for some reason that leech pisses me off more than the pl. Just saying, there's 7 people in a party doing work, and one person low level just leeching. Its better if its one person pl, and like 1 leech, but 7 people doing work and 1 leech is just selfish. I'm not saying pling is bad but you know most of the people on this forum are inventing reasons why its bad. If you say "yeah too many pl at camps I can't party" then I can say "oh wow that does affect your game play experience" but most people won't admit they haven't been affected and that they just don't like it. Why can't people admit that they don't like it for personal reasons. The average person hates it because it makes their 50 feel worthless, and their not saying it. If people actually gave examples, screen shots and such, like with rmt, maybe people would start to say "ok this is affecting the game" but no one gives good examples and everyone in just bitching.


    tldr: be more like zenaku and actually give examples, don't just come on here saying "IT RUINS THE GAME" and give no reason why. He gave an example and people will read it and go "yeah i wouldn't like if that happened to me"...the sheer bitching of these three threads on pl has actually outweighed examples, pictures, proof, or constructive suggestions.
    I play around at any hour from day and night and i See powerlevel it happen a lot even when you find a camp someone would come. The good thing is some are nice enough to leave the camp there in for your party to come in. But there still a few who be asshole about it and stay.

    I don't mind powerlevel but when it affect me and how i level it when it piss me off also the fact that people are getting level up to quick i got 1-40 within few days and that only party. I wonder how SE going to fix it so you take 2-3month to get your first 50 that going to be very hard. Also they should not be AFK and just not do the work at all they i hope 1.19A would stop powerlevel in high levels areas
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    Last edited by Zenaku; 10-13-2011 at 12:33 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    I wonder how SE going to fix it so you take 2-3month to get your first 50 that going to be very hard.
    I legitimately think that at least one month for 1-50 seems like a very good time frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brillen View Post
    I legitimately think that at least one month for 1-50 seems like a very good time frame.
    No 2-3 month sound good for a hardcore player 4month for a casual but that just me. That more then enough time for players to get use to there roles and understand the game. All they need to do is add stuff to do for every level cap so 10-15-20-30-40-50 that would give players something to look forward too and not get bored and give enough time for SE to add even more stuff too do.

    But i guess that too late with all the 50 they should have really just delay the game too it was 100% and just keep on with beta testing so once the game is done they can reroll everyone. But w/e i don't bad 2-3 month sound good also but 1month is way to much that pretty much the month they give you when you buy the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    But i guess that too late with all the 50 they should have really just delay the game too it was 100% and just keep on with beta testing so once the game is done they can reroll everyone.
    oh wow seriously reroll? iam pretty sure SE will gonna hear your suggestions on rerolling everyone to 1, pretty much they gonna rack up players and having more subscription then ever once they are done with beta testing
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    Quote Originally Posted by feint2021 View Post
    For those who aren't keeping up with the forums....This is being addressed in 1.19a. There will still be plvl but not where you can go afk.

    Don't know why these threads are still going.
    Did you read any of what I said? I'm not complaining nec. about how I hate PL'ers or PL'ing. What I do say is this game does not support enough people that actively want to group vs being PL'd. Get on a lvl 20 and shout for a group for hours then watch those same leveled people hop into a "power leveling service" when they could be partying with me. Suck it up right? Pay the 75k and just get 37 so I can actually group. I'm not 50, Ive been here since Alpha and have seen the ups and downs. Although I think the Leve fail "abuse" was bad, this is far worse, but again. If it didn't affect me getting lowbie groups, I wouldn't honestly care.
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    let new char PLed to 50 till the nerf...they will gimped lol...price of one pieces of R48+ armor is insane, eventually they will level DoH/DoL or level new battle class to do the farming..
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