How does PL'ing affect you?

[Uki]

I do apologize up front for bringing this subject up yet again, when we already know its going to be nerfed or gotten rid of in 1.19a as Yoshi didn't expect the outcome of people afk'ing while they amass Exp.

I've seen it said many times on this very forum that in a PvE game, how does Power Leveling effect you? Atleast that is the defense of most of the pro-PL'ers. Normally, although I feel its a very bad choice in mechanics and SE should indeed do something to fix it, I usually don't feel the need to make post about issue's like this rather then just update the 50 million other ones.

Seem's like each update that has come out, and I've been here since Alpha, that SE finds one way to make my gaming experience crash to a halt. People power leveling in general isn't the issue. The issue lies in this. Which has been happening the last couple nights.

I'm sitting in Uldah and waiting for a group for my 22 CNJ/20 MRD, just hoping someone will start a group. After an hour or so I decide to make my own group. I shout and shout to no avail. Then I see this "Professional Power leveling Service! 1-37! Freeloader's will be charged." Someone in /sh says "75k per person??".
So, I sit, and I shout some more, sure I could pay 75k to get my CNJ to 37, but why should I have too? The person shouting the service fills up, 8/8. Now granted before this all happened I would have had a party made after an hour of shouting "usually".

So if you think about it, how does PL'ing effect my game play and enjoyment of the game? Its hard to enjoy something, when something you enjoy the most is being cheapened by people who would rather not party when they can pay 75k to hit 37 within the fastest time possible.

Once again, I do apologize for kicking a dead horse in a sense. Fustration has pushed me a bit over the top. Flame away and or yell at me for posting but either way, I feel better.. Kinda~

Seems that in Besaid they are ABUSING the PLvl system,never saw that kind of message on my server(ASKING MONEY FOR PLVL? LOOL WHAT A JOKE) they look like those Casino guys in FFXI.
Regarding if it's affect me, no it doesn't,there's always free spots to lvl on mostly of the areas where the Plvelers go.

[Zezlar]

I avoid it. I would rather work for my levels rather then sit there and let someone else do it for me. There's no sense of accomplishment if I let someone else work to level me up.

[Nilheim]

I was PLed by a friend today, got 5 levels then joined a party in a stronghold where I got another 5 levels. At the end of the day, I had had a lot of fun, I had made significant progress and I wasn't feeling like I had wasted all my evening doing shitty leves all alone for a crappy reward.

The current system is going to change and I'm not gonna cry about it cause it is indeed insane right now. But am I outraged because FFXIV finally gave me a break and said "Come on son, you deserve a few levels."? You bet your ass I'm not, and I'm gonna do it again tomorrow and the day after.

If I deserve to be called a noob or a destroyer of the spirit of the game for it then that's fine by me, you can all keep pretending you're having the time of your life soloing the same leve for the 30th time for all I care.

[zaviermhigo]

I would like to know how it affects people too. I mean I know I'm against pl'ing a character past 20, for reasons that that character is gimp and hasn't learned to play the game, but that doesn't mean it affects me, I'm just against it. I would never go as far to say that it was ruining or the game or my gaming experience. If you were trying to go party in a cave in limsa and a party was there, would you start a forum saying "Partying ruined my gaming experience" probably not. So thanks OP for this topic, I look forward to people trying to tell you how it affects them based on no logic at all.

My server has high population, you're more likely to get a /tell asking for pl-gil exchange then you are to hear shouts. Maybe the people on other servers have no class. Most pl'ing I would say on the server is done via ls. Was on today for 3 hours only shouts I heard were for leveling groups.


Pl'ing makes me a lil jealous, it makes me think damn I tried to level when I could during multiple semesters (since CE basically) and now my 50 means nothing to these guys who just raced on up pl'ing. But that doesn't affect the game that just demotivates me personally sometimes and makes me not want to play. So it first has an affect on the players, which produces and effect on the game. Get what I'm saying. Lets just tell it like it is that our feelings are kinda hurt, its not bitchy, it doesn't make you look like a pu$$y, its the truth. Till then its like many a wise black man (black myself people are jumpy) has said -it is what it is

[Zenaku]

I would like to know how it affects people too. I mean I know I'm against pl'ing a character past 20, for reasons that that character is gimp and hasn't learned to play the game, but that doesn't mean it affects me, I'm just against it. I would never go as far to say that it was ruining or the game or my gaming experience. If you were trying to go party in a cave in limsa and a party was there, would you start a forum saying "Partying ruined my gaming experience" probably not. So thanks OP for this topic, I look forward to people trying to tell you how it affects them based on no logic at all.

My server has high population, you're more likely to get a /tell asking for pl-gil exchange then you are to hear shouts. Maybe the people on other servers have no class. Most pl'ing I would say on the server is done via ls. Was on today for 3 hours only shouts I heard were for leveling groups.


Pl'ing makes me a lil jealous, it makes me think damn I tried to level when I could during multiple semesters (since CE basically) and now my 50 means nothing to these guys who just raced on up pl'ing. But that doesn't affect the game that just demotivates me personally sometimes and makes me not want to play. So it first has an affect on the players, which produces and effect on the game. Get what I'm saying. Lets just tell it like it is that our feelings are kinda hurt, its not bitchy, it doesn't make you look like a pu$$y, its the truth. Till then its like many a wise black man (black myself people are jumpy) has said -it is what it is

how does it affects people? you farming for items for craft oh look powerlevel killing everything want to level a low level job oh look a powerlevel. Trying to solo oh look a powerlevel it may not affects you right now but it does too everyone who trying to level i can't find one camp without a powerlevel in it or they just come and take it from you.

[zaviermhigo]

how does it affects people? you farming for items for craft oh look powerlevel killing everything want to level a low level job oh look a powerlevel. Trying to solo oh look a powerlevel it may not affects you right now but it does too everyone who trying to level i can't find one camp without a powerlevel in it or they just come and take it from you.

We're on the same server so it must be the time you log on because I've been able to9 find camps all week. Even if there is a pl'er there I usually ask, "hey do you mind" and they'll go off and do they're own thing completely unaffected. Seriously people who've played this game since CE have stolen mobs from me and griefed me harder than the pls. I've had mobs stolen from me more from people I know then pls groups. Now leeching that different, if you remember the Zatarak party we were in Zen, remember the leech? I just for some reason that leech pisses me off more than the pl. Just saying, there's 7 people in a party doing work, and one person low level just leeching. Its better if its one person pl, and like 1 leech, but 7 people doing work and 1 leech is just selfish. I'm not saying pling is bad but you know most of the people on this forum are inventing reasons why its bad. If you say "yeah too many pl at camps I can't party" then I can say "oh wow that does affect your game play experience" but most people won't admit they haven't been affected and that they just don't like it. Why can't people admit that they don't like it for personal reasons. The average person hates it because it makes their 50 feel worthless, and their not saying it. If people actually gave examples, screen shots and such, like with rmt, maybe people would start to say "ok this is affecting the game" but no one gives good examples and everyone in just bitching.


tldr: be more like zenaku and actually give examples, don't just come on here saying "IT RUINS THE GAME" and give no reason why. He gave an example and people will read it and go "yeah i wouldn't like if that happened to me"...the sheer bitching of these three threads on pl has actually outweighed examples, pictures, proof, or constructive suggestions.

[Zenaku]

We're on the same server so it must be the time you log on because I've been able to9 find camps all week. Even if there is a pl'er there I usually ask, "hey do you mind" and they'll go off and do they're own thing completely unaffected. Seriously people who've played this game since CE have stolen mobs from me and griefed me harder than the pls. I've had mobs stolen from me more from people I know then pls groups. Now leeching that different, if you remember the Zatarak party we were in Zen, remember the leech? I just for some reason that leech pisses me off more than the pl. Just saying, there's 7 people in a party doing work, and one person low level just leeching. Its better if its one person pl, and like 1 leech, but 7 people doing work and 1 leech is just selfish. I'm not saying pling is bad but you know most of the people on this forum are inventing reasons why its bad. If you say "yeah too many pl at camps I can't party" then I can say "oh wow that does affect your game play experience" but most people won't admit they haven't been affected and that they just don't like it. Why can't people admit that they don't like it for personal reasons. The average person hates it because it makes their 50 feel worthless, and their not saying it. If people actually gave examples, screen shots and such, like with rmt, maybe people would start to say "ok this is affecting the game" but no one gives good examples and everyone in just bitching.


tldr: be more like zenaku and actually give examples, don't just come on here saying "IT RUINS THE GAME" and give no reason why. He gave an example and people will read it and go "yeah i wouldn't like if that happened to me"...the sheer bitching of these three threads on pl has actually outweighed examples, pictures, proof, or constructive suggestions.

I play around at any hour from day and night and i See powerlevel it happen a lot even when you find a camp someone would come. The good thing is some are nice enough to leave the camp there in for your party to come in. But there still a few who be asshole about it and stay.

I don't mind powerlevel but when it affect me and how i level it when it piss me off also the fact that people are getting level up to quick i got 1-40 within few days and that only party. I wonder how SE going to fix it so you take 2-3month to get your first 50 that going to be very hard. Also they should not be AFK and just not do the work at all they i hope 1.19A would stop powerlevel in high levels areas

[Brillen]

I wonder how SE going to fix it so you take 2-3month to get your first 50 that going to be very hard.

I legitimately think that at least one month for 1-50 seems like a very good time frame.

[wolfwing]

I have always disliked power leveling, to be honest I've only power leveled any char, and that was my white mage in FFXI till 15 or what ever it was, because at the time no one partied till then, and leveling was a snails pace, once i was able to party I stopped. To me power leveling in any game takes out alof of the joys of the games and stuff. And as other people pointed out soon we will end up with idiots that are level 40+ wanting to do raptor parties in starter gear because they can't afford anything.

[KenJammin]

I think its going to get stopped for sure. They need to make a new system that gives max level players a meaning to play with their friends, or level sync with them or something. Not destroy the experience of developing a character over a long period of time...

I agree with you TC i think they're needs to be more threads destroying the terrible logic that it doesn't affect anyone. Clearly it makes people upset so why not get rid of it? The number of people its upsetting is outweighing the number of people that are giving the game a chance because of it, and even if more people are getting into it because they can now have a free max level, can SE really trust those players to stick around once the game goes p2p?

I hope it gets rectified in 1.19a if it doesn't i at least expect an answer so i can know if the dev team really is this stubborn and move on to another game.