Seriously?

[Yunona]

I'm a 60 AST and have seen "bad players" but um, if you passed 60, and you are just grinding your other jobs or whatever. Why do you care? Stop whining yourselves. Its a game and bad players get punished through kicking, if they nerf it they nerf it. Its not going to ruin the game for you is it? Cause if it does you need to chill out. You are just as bad as them for whining, why not teach players since you all are apparently so avid to complain, or maybe you don't have the time, you need to whine about 7 other things. Just teach people, or be MLG pro somewhere else. You can express your opinion of course, but you can also use your time to help players, I run low level dungeons and such to help players who are learning, just so when they do hit the HW content they won't kill me.

[Inferiae]

I'm a 60 AST and have seen "bad players" but um, if you passed 60, and you are just grinding your other jobs or whatever. Why do you care?

I'm just asking to have fun while playing a game, is that too much?

[Yunona]

I'm just asking to have fun while playing a game, is that too much?

Then have fun, its not about the other players being good or bad, it might suck sometimes, but I still have fun, its a game for a reason, don't blame others for not having fun, I think new players exist even at 60.. surprisingly but I still wish to help them,

[Inferiae]

Then have fun, its not about the other players being good or bad, it might suck sometimes, but I still have fun, its a game for a reason, don't blame others for not having fun, I think new players exist even at 60.. surprisingly but I still wish to help them,

I'm not blaming the player, I'm talking about nerfing the dungeons. Fighting a moving striking dummy is not really my kind of 'fun'.

[Yunona]

I'm not blaming the player, I'm talking about nerfing the dungeons. Fighting a moving striking dummy is not really my kind of 'fun'.

Its not fun, you're right, but with this, we can expect later dungeons, to be better. Players will learn, and honestly I bet this nerf will be very slight, and we will all get that feeling of excitement just as we did before.

[sirDarts]

Its not fun, you're right, but with this, we can expect later dungeons, to be better. Players will learn, and honestly I bet this nerf will be very slight, and we will all get that feeling of excitement just as we did before.

What incentive do players have to learn, if everything they come across is faceroll easy?

[Yunona]

What incentive do players have to learn, if everything they come across is faceroll easy?

Go faceroll into your keyboard more in this forum, geez don't be such a jerk to players, teach them if you care so much. INCENTIVE- You do a nice things, a good deed, and thats it.

[Inferiae]

Its not fun, you're right, but with this, we can expect later dungeons, to be better. Players will learn, and honestly I bet this nerf will be very slight, and we will all get that feeling of excitement just as we did before.

Not really. We can expect later dungeons to also be nerfed, actually. That's been the trend so far: people complain, they nerf, repeat.

And if a 50+ player hasn't learnt the basics that you need to be decent at HW dungeons, no amount of dungeons will teach them. I mean, they HAD to go through whole 50 levels. But that's another matter entirely, on my opinion. If the game keeps dumbing itself so the player doesn't have to learn anything, why and when would he learn at all?

[Yunona]

Not really. We can expect later dungeons to also be nerfed, actually. That's been the trend so far: people complain, they nerf, repeat.

And if a 50+ player hasn't learnt the basics that you need to be decent at HW dungeons, no amount of dungeons will teach them. I mean, they HAD to go through whole 50 levels. But that's another matter entirely, on my opinion. If the game keeps dumbing itself so the player doesn't have to learn anything, why and when would he learn at all?

I understand, I don't like easy stuff too much, right now on my alt, I get bored, I played WOW and so did my friend, we dislike the boring easy dungeons, but I won't go blame every player in the world, in fact, I bet a lot of people in this thread would meet in game and say the other sucked. Thats the issue,