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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastanight View Post
    but before you can even try to do anything they nerf it.
    This is blatantly false.
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  2. #52
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastanight View Post
    To tell you the truth, most content is very easy. Yes, some is difficult, but before you can even try to do anything they nerf it. So, seems strange I'm the only one that has an interest in Savage, for the purpose of challenge. Players should try, and with duty finder, this would be more easily accomplished.
    You do realise how long ago Savage Coil came out right? Also as far as I know they haven't nerfed the old Savage Coil.

    In general they don't need to nerf non raid content much unless they missed its original balance. The reason most content becomes easier is due to players getting stronger gear.

    Also there are a lot of people interested in Savage Alexander which is lvl 60. Most people aren't that interested in Savage Coil, particularly now.

    I've said it a couple of times now. If Savage Coil was on the DF you would still wait hours in queue and not get a group. People cant even get normal Coil runs on DF most of the time these days. Its now out-dated content. Those that do do coil either do it undersized so they can go in as a lvl 60 and steamroll it and those who might try it with the settings at 50 are going to be doing it with a premade group.

    If you really want to get into Savage level content, get to 60 first. You will find a lot more people interested in difficult 60 content than difficult 50 content that is over a year old.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastanight View Post
    Any fight can be won in duty finder, just need a good group that knows the fight. But getting a group of 8 ahead of time is more of a challenge than any fight I would say. lol
    As another person said you are really underestimating the amount of coordination and communication required to even attempt Alex savage never mind clearing it lol good luck with that.
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  4. #54
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    Kaye Esdarke
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    We just need more dungeon options. Right now we have two faceroll 4 man dungeons, four fairly easy 8 man bosses, two medium difficulty 8 man bosses, and four insanely difficult bosses. Note the lack of the word "dungeon" in most of those descriptions. We have not had an 8 man dungeon since Praetorium.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immut View Post
    We just need more dungeon options. Right now we have two faceroll 4 man dungeons, four fairly easy 8 man bosses, two medium difficulty 8 man bosses, and four insanely difficult bosses. Note the lack of the word "dungeon" in most of those descriptions. We have not had an 8 man dungeon since Praetorium.
    Go look at 2.0 and tell me how many lvl 50 dungeons there were

    Pretty much the exact same as now.
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  6. #56
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    Ok, I now agree, old content is out of date of the majority of players, and who wants to do a year old stuff when new content is available. Can it be that Savage is considered more difficult than it is though because of lack of trying in the first place, seriously, its the same as normal mode, just memorize a video and everyone does their role. Theres no planning ahead anyway and no change of strategy ever, but that's another topic, so in the end, stick with the group and try to catch up if you don't want to wait all day to try at all.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastanight View Post
    Ok, I now agree, old content is out of date of the majority of players, and who wants to do a year old stuff when new content is available. Can it be that Savage is considered more difficult than it is though because of lack of trying in the first place, seriously, its the same as normal mode, just memorize a video and everyone does their role. Theres no planning ahead anyway and no change of strategy ever, but that's another topic, so in the end, stick with the group and try to catch up if you don't want to wait all day to try at all.
    This is going to sound pretty mean but this post right here is making me fully realize why you aren't in a static
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  8. #58
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastanight View Post
    Ok, I now agree, old content is out of date of the majority of players, and who wants to do a year old stuff when new content is available. Can it be that Savage is considered more difficult than it is though because of lack of trying in the first place, seriously, its the same as normal mode, just memorize a video and everyone does their role. Theres no planning ahead anyway and no change of strategy ever, but that's another topic, so in the end, stick with the group and try to catch up if you don't want to wait all day to try at all.
    Considering how many raider are still breaking their teeth on Alexander floor 3 Savage, Id say that its pretty hard. Plenty of people have been trying Alex Savage.
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  9. #59
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    I know how it works, its who you know and kicked after 3 strikes, maybe that's why so many are still stuck on floor 3 and probably have their achievements blocked for savage coil.
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    Dark Brilliance
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    If the content is difficult enough to be called "Savage" I don't think you'd want to queue for it in the duty finder.
    Except that is exactly what he wants, since he asked for it.
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