Savage Mode Dungeons

[Kurogaea]

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Hmmm partially right. I don't run them now because I'd wait for it be ran in duty finder so I can learn with random pugs. instead of waiting for a learning party. Just about every savage group learning party has stability issues with members and falls apart due to common reasons, a duty finder will easily patch them up since those who leave can be replaced easily in mid fight, and most players know this because df as been known to have newbies in fights. Pf isn't so friendly now that I think about it. :/

[Mastanight]

I never have done savage but I tried it a little, savage is in my opinion something to always try, not just to bypass. It isn't and shouldn't be for any reason other than to win and obtain a title. How is savage coil any different than current content, can you tell me that? All I'm saying is I feel forced not to try it and bypass it, because of lack of players willing to try. It being old content makes no difference to me, I would like to try all savage content eventually, the more challenging the better.

[echoica]

Ok, I now agree, old content is out of date of the majority of players, and who wants to do a year old stuff when new content is available. Can it be that Savage is considered more difficult than it is though because of lack of trying in the first place, seriously, its the same as normal mode, just memorize a video and everyone does their role. Theres no planning ahead anyway and no change of strategy ever, but that's another topic, so in the end, stick with the group and try to catch up if you don't want to wait all day to try at all.

LOL wow...

[ShiloEET]

The duty finder lets some of us play whenever we want. It can be hard find a group with the PF late at night, but with the duty finder this isn't a problem. It also lets you try again right after a failed attempt (group falls apart).

[Airget]

I think the ability to explore dungeons would be better than creating a savage mode. Simple 30 min content with 4-8 people where you can go into old dungeons and look through nooks and crannies to find hidden bosses, new areas, and overall have the opportunity to make more use out of the old dungeons than just linear events that occur.

[Craiger]

People complained about Pharos Sirius being too hard when that came out... Just imagine how it would be if they release Savage dungeons...

The reason why you have to gather 8 players for the raids, are because it's pretty much impossible to beat it in Duty Finder.

Beating Savage content, requires a lot of time training together with the same (or at least the same in majority) players over and over...

95% of the people I get in my Expert Roulette runs, wouldn't even be close to beating Faust in A1S...

If they made "Savage" dungeons that are beatable in Duty Finder, it wouldn't be Savage anymore...

[hagare]

People complained about Pharos Sirius being too hard when that came out... Just imagine how it would be if they release Savage dungeons...

The reason why you have to gather 8 players for the raids, are because it's pretty much impossible to beat it in Duty Finder.

Beating Savage content, requires a lot of time training together with the same (or at least the same in majority) players over and over...

95% of the people I get in my Expert Roulette runs, wouldn't even be close to beating Faust in A1S...

If they made "Savage" dungeons that are beatable in Duty Finder, it wouldn't be Savage anymore...

eeeeh no. Given time any content that relies on patterns will be able to be done in DF.
because the task that needs to be performed by each role stays the same.
an example would be the extreme primals and coil.

[Mastanight]

People complained about Pharos Sirius being too hard when that came out... Just imagine how it would be if they release Savage dungeons...

The reason why you have to gather 8 players for the raids, are because it's pretty much impossible to beat it in Duty Finder.

Beating Savage content, requires a lot of time training together with the same (or at least the same in majority) players over and over...

95% of the people I get in my Expert Roulette runs, wouldn't even be close to beating Faust in A1S...

If they made "Savage" dungeons that are beatable in Duty Finder, it wouldn't be Savage anymore...

If group knew fight well it would be beatable in duty finder, just need practice. The fight is always the same, progression is based on perfection! But you could probably practice whenever you want with Df and not have to wait on others.