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    Mastanight's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Join an FC. Seriously, there are Raid statics everywhere. Its not that hard to find a Static. Also, do you mean Savage Coil or Savage Alex, cause even if they added Savage Coil to the DF I think you would find very few people would be queuing for it now.
    Times are always a problem, people not showing up to play. Savage coil is old content that is true, but it is not progression based content anyways, and I bet most have never even tried, let alone won.
    Savage Alex, well Savage ??? whatever is next will be out and Savage Coil will be forgotten, but with Duty Finder you could try anytime, with other worlds of players, if people rage quit so much then maybe that's another problem to begin with?
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Savage Coil is already mostly forgotten. Even the Crystal Tower raids usually take hours of queue time to run and people still run that for glamour. The only reason to run Savage Coil now is if your trying to get titles. Even when it was current very few people tried Savage. You would be queuing for hours and still not getting anywhere.

    As for Statics, I can't comment on your experience but I certainly have seen no such issues and even if they happened the Party Finder still exists. Still, since your not 60 yet the obvious reason your having trouble with statics is probably you don't have a Job high enough yet to really get into an active endgame scene. Your going to have to be 60 to be getting involved in what is 'current'.

    Savage is designed to both challenge players on a personal level but also challenge their ability to coordinate as a team. Without that communication coping with the mechanics is just going to generate anger. They don't put Savage on the DF cause they don't want to set the expectation in people that a random group of people who aren't in communication with each other are going to be able to reliably make progress and beat the content. That way you don't have people coming here and complaining that its too hard.
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    Last edited by Belhi; 11-01-2015 at 09:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastanight View Post
    Any fight can be won in duty finder, just need a good group that knows the fight. But getting a group of 8 ahead of time is more of a challenge than any fight I would say. lol
    As another person said you are really underestimating the amount of coordination and communication required to even attempt Alex savage never mind clearing it lol good luck with that.
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    We just need more dungeon options. Right now we have two faceroll 4 man dungeons, four fairly easy 8 man bosses, two medium difficulty 8 man bosses, and four insanely difficult bosses. Note the lack of the word "dungeon" in most of those descriptions. We have not had an 8 man dungeon since Praetorium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immut View Post
    We just need more dungeon options. Right now we have two faceroll 4 man dungeons, four fairly easy 8 man bosses, two medium difficulty 8 man bosses, and four insanely difficult bosses. Note the lack of the word "dungeon" in most of those descriptions. We have not had an 8 man dungeon since Praetorium.
    Go look at 2.0 and tell me how many lvl 50 dungeons there were

    Pretty much the exact same as now.
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    Ok, I now agree, old content is out of date of the majority of players, and who wants to do a year old stuff when new content is available. Can it be that Savage is considered more difficult than it is though because of lack of trying in the first place, seriously, its the same as normal mode, just memorize a video and everyone does their role. Theres no planning ahead anyway and no change of strategy ever, but that's another topic, so in the end, stick with the group and try to catch up if you don't want to wait all day to try at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastanight View Post
    Ok, I now agree, old content is out of date of the majority of players, and who wants to do a year old stuff when new content is available. Can it be that Savage is considered more difficult than it is though because of lack of trying in the first place, seriously, its the same as normal mode, just memorize a video and everyone does their role. Theres no planning ahead anyway and no change of strategy ever, but that's another topic, so in the end, stick with the group and try to catch up if you don't want to wait all day to try at all.
    This is going to sound pretty mean but this post right here is making me fully realize why you aren't in a static
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastanight View Post
    Ok, I now agree, old content is out of date of the majority of players, and who wants to do a year old stuff when new content is available. Can it be that Savage is considered more difficult than it is though because of lack of trying in the first place, seriously, its the same as normal mode, just memorize a video and everyone does their role. Theres no planning ahead anyway and no change of strategy ever, but that's another topic, so in the end, stick with the group and try to catch up if you don't want to wait all day to try at all.
    Considering how many raider are still breaking their teeth on Alexander floor 3 Savage, Id say that its pretty hard. Plenty of people have been trying Alex Savage.
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    I know how it works, its who you know and kicked after 3 strikes, maybe that's why so many are still stuck on floor 3 and probably have their achievements blocked for savage coil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mastanight View Post
    I know how it works, its who you know and kicked after 3 strikes, maybe that's why so many are still stuck on floor 3 and probably have their achievements blocked for savage coil.
    No clearly you don't know how it works. I've been in quite a few different static groups across many games including this one and booting raid members because they make mistakes in encounters while learning them almost never happens. Mistakes happen on raid encounters and they end up causing wipes. Changing the roster constantly throws off your group dynamic. The reason its called a static is because they are taking pretty much the same roster along most of the time.

    The reason so few haven't done savage coil is because there was very little incentive to do it and most were content to just complete normal coil.

    Seriously, you haven't ever done savage so how do you 'know how it works'?
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