Savage Mode Dungeons

[Mastanight]

No, Party Finder, but I tried many, many, times before succeeding, just like Duty Finder, so no they weren't nerfed at all cause there was no echo then.
Party Finder, is no different than Duty Finder, if its random people joining, just need right group to win.

[Ashelia_Ferron]

No, Party Finder, but I tried many, many, times before succeeding, just like Duty Finder, so no they weren't nerfed at all cause there was no echo then.

So if party finder worked then, use it now. I don't see the issue.

What Savage are you even trying to do? Second Coil? Because according to the Lodestone you don't have any job at 60.

And good luck finding people who want to run synced. The general population on this game doesn't run old content for the challenge. They're only running for glamour and titles

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

So if party finder worked then, use it now. I don't see the issue.

What Savage are you even trying to do? Second Coil? Because according to the Lodestone you don't have any job at 60.

And good luck finding people who want to run synced. The general population on this game doesn't run old content for the challenge. They're only running for glamour and titles

If you check his achievement dates, he completed both t5 and t8 and 9 after the echo was added.

[Martin_Arcainess]

About the people quitting, they quit even before the gate disappears because they know it's going to be a pain to do and people join DF to clear content, not to wipe over and over again. You have better chance of going in with a group that you know yourself will do well the meeting randoms who you have no idea how good they are in DF. Not saying it's not possible thought but you have better chance of clearing content with people you know.

And about the people RQ even in statics, that's a very poor well I wouldn't call it a static.

you say you like challenge content which is fair enough as do many people out there do but you want to clear that challenge content and you'd have much better chance at PF then you would do in DF. Even easy content in DF people can still mess up and rage quit after 1 or 2 tries but stuff like SOF people was leaving before it even started.

For the T9 DF part, you'd lucky to get a group of people who are all at the same phase and know who does what.

See with PF, you can have more control over who joins your party by setting up the rules for it. *bar in mind you'll might get those odd 1 or 2 newbies who try to join a kill group.

[Mastanight]

I run for challenge, and to have fun. I guess Savage for Second Coil will be the last then? I guess maybe one day it will be playable for everybody?

[Riardon]

I would love this as an idea but. This needs be a separate Roulette and not mixed with the "normal" mode ones for obvious reasons. Then it needs to give you a different reward. Completely new tokens? Vanity? Needs something good as a reward for motivation. I doubt this will ever be implemented though. There are a lot of dungeons so lots of work and this also needs to not break the balance of the current content and they also need to work on its rewards. I think they are better spending their resources and time for the next patches. I think we need more "fresh" content than recycled old. That being said I wouldn't mind to see this in game though.

[Staris]

We already had savage mode dungeons.
It was doing an expert roulette on release of 3.0 and getting 2 bards in your party as dps.
Luckily they fixed that.

[Mastanight]

Agree on this, correct, more new content, but challenge and better rewards for succeeding is the answer.

[Ashelia_Ferron]

Agree on this, correct, more new content, but challenge and better rewards for succeeding is the answer.

You know this game is just pandering to casuals right? Just look at the live letter. Nerfing dungeons.

If you want a high degree of challenge with meaningful rewards, find a different game.

[Mastanight]

So, over 4 million players, and none like a good challenge???