Savage Mode Dungeons

[Mastanight]

If duty finder was available for practice, it would make things easier to try in the first place. Then people could get a pre-arranged group to try to do more. If players want things easier, then maybe they don't like a challenge. But what about players that do? We don't have all day to get others to try in the first place.
People quit on the 1st go no matter how difficult. The fight is easy and they quit anyways, so does it really matter?

[Ashelia_Ferron]

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No it wouldn\\'t. Savage is difficult. Most players can\\'t do it. So you\\'d just wipe near the beginning of the fight. And then maybe your group gets better at the beginning, but then bam, timer expires, you have to queue again, and what do you know, you get 7 newbies and have to go through just the beginning over and over again. That\\'s not practice. Plus every group handles stuff differently.

That's why people form statics. CONSISTENCY. Plus you typically have everyone on voice chat to help coordinate the group. You have no idea how important voice chat can be. Back when T9 was progression, having someone who could call out mechanics was crucial.


Also you say you don't have time to play all the time. That's also a reason to have statics. You schedule times that everyone is free. You don't raid all day every day.

[Mastanight]

No it wouldn\\'t. Savage is difficult. Most players can\\'t do it. So you\\'d just wipe near the beginning of the fight. And then maybe your group gets better at the beginning, but then bam, timer expires, you have to queue again, and what do you know, you get 7 newbies and have to go through just the beginning over and over again. That\\'s not practice. Plus every group handles stuff differently.

That's why people form statics. CONSISTENCY. Plus you typically have everyone on voice chat to help coordinate the group. You have no idea how important voice chat can be. Back when T9 was progression, having someone who could call out mechanics was crucial.


Also you say you don't have time to play all the time. That's also a reason to have statics. You schedule times that everyone is free. You don't raid all day every day.

I beat T9 without static and lots of others Turns. People quitting happens no matter what, even in statics.

[Ashelia_Ferron]

And when did you beat them? Now? You do realize the fights have been heavily nerfed in both mechanics and in the form of Echo right? If you didn't beat it during progression then your point is moot.

[Felis]

Its not much to ask but can we please have Savage Dungeons on duty finder where I don't have to know a party of 8 ahead of time?

Not before next tier of Alexander, which come with 3.2

You should know it.

I beat T9 without static and lots of others Turns. People quitting happens no matter what, even in statics.

After 2.4, I guess

[Mastanight]

I beat T1-T9 before any echo without static, T7 being the hardest. But I enjoyed the challenge. If things aren't available to try though, how can anything be fun?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Were they in DF when you beat them? Cuz if so, they had been nerfed and had the echo.

[Kathyz]

Still dont understand people with the agurment "dont put it in DF because no one going to make it and its going to be a waste of time"... so?, let them waste their time its no like you going to use DF anyways for that. I mean i usderstand some people want the content in DF because sometime its a pain in the ass to make a team in PF wastin time without make anything, if you enter in DF and wipe all the time at least you are doing something.

Thats only for people like me who dont like gathering craft and all that stuff tho.

[Ashelia_Ferron]

I beat T1-T9 before any echo without static, T7 being the hardest. But I enjoyed the challenge. If things aren't available to try though, how can anything be fun?

None of coil was available through DF before they got nerfed and had Echo added, so the only way that's possible is if you joined a preformed group, which means it shouldn't be a problem to do so for Savage