What they mean by "change the damage calculations of tanks"?

[Cabalabob]

If they're changing it so we scale off VIT instead of STR I really hope we're gonna get compensated for all the eso we spent on slaying accessories.. I have like maybe 3 fending accessories at or above i200, I'd hate to be using STR accs when STR is useless to us, I'd feel like a drg running around in aiming accessories >_<

[Hayward]

If they're changing it so we scale off VIT instead of STR I really hope we're gonna get compensated for all the eso we spent on slaying accessories.. I have like maybe 3 fending accessories at or above i200, I'd hate to be using STR accs when STR is useless to us, I'd feel like a drg running around in aiming accessories >_<

Sorry, but that's on you. No one put a gun to your head and made you pick out the wrong accessories (unless, of course, you have MNK and/or DRG at 60).

If this means VIT will affect damage output (and hopefully enmity generation and parrying effect), I'm all about it. All that would be left is to catch some tanks up on tanking fundamentals.

[DarioSkydragon]

Sorry, but its not only about DPS. When you tank something with full str acc, like A1S or A2S, every move counts and one mistake can be your doom. Its a incredible feeling.

Its not "wrong accessories", its a way to play.

[Dirth]

Sorry, but its not only about DPS. When you tank something with full str acc, like A1S or A2S, every move counts and one mistake can be your doom. Its a incredible feeling.

Its not "wrong accessories", its a way to play.

> one mistake can be your doom.


Should be like that anyway. Bosses should be tank destroyers, and tanks should not semi dps

[Tyrial]

Sorry, but that's on you. No one put a gun to your head and made you pick out the wrong accessories (unless, of course, you have MNK and/or DRG at 60).

If this means VIT will affect damage output (and hopefully enmity generation and parrying effect), I'm all about it. All that would be left is to catch some tanks up on tanking fundamentals.

SE forced us into this position by imposing heavy DPS checks and making weapon skills and self heals scale off of STR (attack power). In the current meta (as it's been discussed many times) you're effectively neutering yourself by running with any more VIT than what is absolutely necessary.

So yes, if they class lock STR accessories they should be doing something to compensate people who purchased accessories that they can no longer use.

[PotatoWafflez]

So yes, if they class lock STR accessories they should be doing something to compensate people who purchased accessories that they can no longer use.

I doubt they will class lock accessories pretty sure its been brought up in the past when people were boosting ilvls and using tank accessories to meet HP checks.

Worst case your STR accessories in 3.1 will just be like my VIT accessories in 3.0 you can use them but you are neutering yourself. Due to less DPS and less HP.

If anything they should have fixed this going into 3.0 its not like Tanks rolling STR accessories was a new thing.

Personally I've always gotten my Fending set first and then my Slaying set but I've never been one for raiding so it doesn't affect me either way, but it will be nice to have the accessories they are designing for my class/role be actually useful and wanted in terms of the meta/player base for once,
not to mention making things more consistent between tanks.

[Tyrial]

I doubt they will class lock accessories pretty sure its been brought up in the past when people were boosting ilvls and using tank accessories to meet HP checks.

Worst case your STR accessories in 3.1 will just be like my VIT accessories in 3.0 you can use them but you are neutering yourself. Due to less DPS and less HP.

If anything they should have fixed this going into 3.0 its not like Tanks rolling STR accessories was a new thing.

Personally I've always gotten my Fending set first and then my Slaying set but I've never been one for raiding so it doesn't affect me either way, but it will be nice to have the accessories they are designing for my class/role be actually useful and wanted in terms of the meta/player base for once,
not to mention making things more consistent between tanks.

I agree, I was merely countering the post I quoted.

Hopefully they use their brains when they restructure and don't completely ruin things.

[PotatoWafflez]

I agree, I was merely countering the post I quoted.

Hopefully they use their brains when they restructure and don't completely ruin things.

Mainly just wanted to comment on the accessory locking and throw in a few cents afterwards.

I agree and hopefully they will just "flip it" and have it be more or less the same DPS as now with the current meta only with more HP and the world will move on with nothing of value lost.
(-cough- Well except some lucrative sales for a few crafters -cough-)

Or they will make STR worthless while also lowering our DPS with no way to get it back up and probably piss a lot of people off, though I guess it might fix the whole PLD vs DRK/WAR thing? ;-; "ItsokayifPLDDPSisbadcauseallourDPSisbadnow"

I think the main issue here is going to be how much our DPS changes due to this.
Cause lets be real that's pretty much the only thing people care about after the whole not getting one shot aspect.

[Tyrial]

Mainly just wanted to comment on the accessory locking and throw in a few cents afterwards.

I agree and hopefully they will just "flip it" and have it be more or less the same DPS as now with the current meta only with more HP and the world will move on with nothing of value lost.
(-cough- Well except some lucrative sales for a few crafters -cough-)

Or they will make STR worthless while also lowering our DPS with no way to get it back up and probably piss a lot of people off, though I guess it might fix the whole PLD vs DRK/WAR thing? ;-; "ItsokayifPLDDPSisbadcauseallourDPSisbadnow"

I think the main issue here is going to be how much our DPS changes due to this.
Cause lets be real that's pretty much the only thing people care about after the whole not getting one shot aspect.

I'd be fine with them cutting our DPS significantly if it: A) Meant we were actually acting like tanks and had to actively mitigate all incoming damage instead of just scripted TBs, B) They hadn't said that WAR was meant to be the "DPS tank" and C) They removed the BS DPS checks.

[Ultimatecalibur]

SE forced us into this position by imposing heavy DPS checks and making weapon skills and self heals scale off of STR (attack power). In the current meta (as it's been discussed many times) you're effectively neutering yourself by running with any more VIT than what is absolutely necessary.

So yes, if they class lock STR accessories they should be doing something to compensate people who purchased accessories that they can no longer use.

They made the announcement 14+ weeks before the change will occur. It takes only 4 weeks to get the Eso needed to buy a full set of accessories.

Your Slaying accessories are fine for now and you have plenty of time to get ready for 3.2. If the change was happening in 3.1 you might have had an argument.