What they mean by "change the damage calculations of tanks"?

[Gumbercules]

changing vit to calculate damage and removing str is literally the best and simplest way to deal with the issue, which is why i think this is the way they might be going. gameplay wise it would literally change nothing I would currently do as a tank/OT. Would make calculating tank dps and survival for future content easier since they would be pretty much tied together in a single "stat" Course there's math etc that has to go into it, but im seeing this as the best solution, keeps what we can see now is the intended playstyle intact while reining in the "tank-onry" outliers :P

Mostly curious about what will happen to parry :P i really could see it being a new primary stat :P

[Kaisinel]

I think the reason so many of us enjoy pushing DPS and stance swapping and all that is because it takes away fromy the boring meta of "oh let me stand here with my bazillion HP that I can't possibly die with while waiting for the next big hit to pop a cool down for and still not be close to dying cause I have a bazillion HP" some of us actually want to push our play and skill to the max and not be carebears. Sorry most of you ruin the game for everyone, if you want a game to emulate WoW so bad just go play WoW.

[Syzygian]

"oh let me stand here with my bazillion HP that I can't possibly die with while waiting for the next big hit to pop a cool down for and still not be close to dying cause I have a bazillion HP"

I have never encountered this mindset ANYWHERE in the game barring new/still leveling tanks.

[Kaisinel]

I have never encountered this mindset ANYWHERE in the game barring new/still leveling tanks.

Have you read the tank threads where everyone is up in arms about STR gear and how tanks must wear vit!

[Syzygian]

Have you read the tank threads where everyone is up in arms about STR gear and how tanks must wear vit!

GAWD CAN THIS LINE OF THINKING PLEASE DIE SLOWLY AND NEVER EVER EVER COME BACK.

"Oh look that tank's wearing STR gear, s/he obviously can't be anything but an unspeakable BADASS and a great player! Yup, prolly world first, that guy! I wonder if he's related to Xeno!?"

"PSH this dumbass tank is wearing VIT gear, we're all doomed to wipe 'cause s/he clearly has NO idea how to play their job or what any of their abilities do or how to tank! *abandons duty*"

Its this ludicrous, toxic school of thought that a cancerously large chunk of the community has clanging around in their heads that, I'm hoping, SE's adjustments will rid us of once and for all. -inb4 "oh, this guy just wants tanks to do 400 DPS and sit there like scrubs" -feel free to stalk my lodestone and see that I'm never wearing fending gear. I love tanking. I love DPS. I don't love this idiotic, borderline-caste system based on what GEAR you CLICKED onto your CHARACTER SHEET.

Edit for additional impact:
No other job-type in the game has this degree of a "Gear=Skill" mindset. Only in the tanking community, right here.

I doubt I should respond to a post with an amazing statement like that in it but what the hell.

If you actually have a reasonable level of toughness and cooldown management, then your healers can DPS. Fun fact, Healers can do tons of damage, significantly more than the difference between your tank stance and your balls-out-man-mode-dps-Dps-DPS!!!! lack of tank stance, if you can be a good tank and afford them that luxury. It's also safer, which is a word i like to translate into 'more likely to get my loot and less likely to wipe'.

Also "some of us actually want to push our play and skill to the max and not be carebears." sounds like WoW kid talk for video games is my life and I don't know how to be nice to others.

Healers play their jobs within ridiculous shackles because of the current tanking meta. Its considered ACCEPTABLE for a WHM to pull 100DPS or LESS in most raids. -_- And they're just resigned to it. I constantly ask my healers "Do I need to put some melds back on? We're good on DPS..." and they're like "No no... its fine..." ...I'll never even try healing in this game because holy shit. O.O

[Ultimatecalibur]

I expect at most that the damage calculation change will close the damage gap between tanks with a Str build and those with a Vit build without making Tank damage "suck."

The problem currently with Tank gearing is that a Tank with a Strength right side deals 27% more damage than one with a Vit right side. This is a significant gap.

Changing it so that Str increases AP by .6 and Vit increases it by .4 would make the gap a much more sane 4.8% increase in damage output from switching sets.

[ManaKing]

Yeah but you could also have a SCH that can pull down 900 DPS on their own because their WHM partner can keep me alive through anything by themselves.

[Syzygian]

Yeah but you could also have a SCH that can pull down 900 DPS on their own because their WHM partner can keep me alive through anything by themselves.

Very rare in Alex as rarely are you the only one taking a crapton of damage. MT and OT both have to tank and both eat millions of damage over the course of each fight. If the SCH is really pumping out 900 DPS and never having to heal you, you should ditch that SCH and bring a SMN and see if the WHM is *actually* solo-healing.