30 min cd on airship exploration, good/bad idea? Why?

**zosia** · 10-27-2015 05:48 PM

SE announced during the live letter that airship exploration will have a 30 min cool down after you get back.

Do you guys think this is a good or bad idea? SE seems to want some feedback on this since they were themselves ambivalent about the concept it seemed.

Personally, I think it's a bad idea for a few reasons.

The first reason: being able to adapt on a whim if the party changes size. Say you join a PF group to do an 8-man exploration. Once you guys enter, two people leave after a wipe. What does your group do now? You either keep going with a two-person deficit or back out and eat the penalty.

The second reason: there can be strict time constraints on a static groups time together. For example, my group will only be available in 3 hr chunks during the week, It could suck if we lost 30 mins of our 3 hours together.

The third reason: there is no way to track penalties of other players, so you could end up forming a group and can't join until someone's cool down runs out.

The last reason: I don't want to wait around for content I am sure we all will want to spam.

Those are my concerns. Why is the 30 min cd good or bad?

**Colorful** · 10-27-2015 06:02 PM

I like the idea.

1.) I don't have to force myself in there every second that I'm playing, and if I do end up not going again and again I'd feel like an ass for letting my FC down.
2.) Ample time to take a break, bathroom break for everyone, snacks, a quick DREX, people can gather and craft, etc.

I don't want to spam this content, what's the point? I'm not interested in getting burnt out in less than a week and then having nothing new to do for 3+ months from that point on. I'm going to take this patch slowly and enjoy it at a reasonable pace. 30 minutes really isn't a big deal to be perfectly honest.

**AskaRay** · 10-27-2015 06:03 PM

Well it looks like there was more to do than just fight.
Like, in your example, two people really do leave...then I'm off to gather or fish. Or look around. Etc.
I'm the type of person to literally fly around for like three hours looking at the scenery so...I could do that as well.

Get back? Time to check retainers and do those beast tribe quests and lament about how I have three open inventory slots. Etc.

**Ashkendor** · 10-27-2015 06:09 PM

I'll take the cooldown over a daily/weekly lockout any day.

**Airget** · 10-27-2015 06:22 PM

Honestly, it's generous that it's only 30 mins, this content does come off like dynamis from XI, when that was first introduced only one group could enter a single instance of 10 different areas however they were tiers of stages so one that were unlocked from start were 4, then 1 more, then 1 more. And then later on they added 4 more areas but those were of lesser duration and the last area was one that honestly wasn't done to often but it was practically 3 days between runs. Even when they changed dynamic it was japanese midnight to enter again, aka you could only go into dynamis 7 times a week meanwhile for XIV it's only a reasonable min of 30 min wait max based on when you left from the entry of a total of 120mins but honestly, that 30 min downtime on content people enjoy is a good way for people to take care of things, relax, plan ahead and re-enter and fun.

Honestly I"d prefer content where a breather can be had instead of just going in as many times as possible and burning out which is what would occur if they didn't have a time limit associated with the content.

**Neri** · 10-27-2015 06:58 PM

Hard to say when the content is not even here yet.

**corydor** · 10-27-2015 07:04 PM

you miss read it, the cooldown is actually 120 mins from when you enter the area, so if you stay the full time it is only 30 mins till you can re-enter, it is to stop people farming random island spawns for a certain island or one that hasn't been cleared already. so in you scenario if two people leave after 10 mins you would need to wait 110 mins to go back in.

**ruskie** · 10-27-2015 07:04 PM

I think the cooldown is a good idea just to force the people to look a bit around themselves instead of just grind it constantly - it'll help not have DF be completely dead with the breaks. Overall though somewhat excited for the explorations one way or another.

**Raffounz** · 10-27-2015 07:05 PM

We are a very big social FC, we are trying to understood how to manage exploration voyages (I hope there are rank permission for this...). The cooldown doesn't help us

**Warlyx** · 10-27-2015 07:09 PM

the time on the island is 120 min ....and isnt a bad idea to take a break after 2h of playing non-stop , to relax , u can check retainer, MB , repair , chat , bio break....

but im sure SE puts a timer to avoid ppl fishing for a instance with X island mob up / not being farmed ect.

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