Thread: 3.1 : Astrologian "adjustments''

I've tried to stick with AST, but I just can't get over how much better SCH is by comparison.

I prefer AST's playstyle, but the raw potency of SCH in not only healing but damage output is just too good to be ignored. :\

That and the mana management is just a bazillion times better...

Originally Posted by RichardButte

I've tried to stick with AST, but I just can't get over how much better SCH is by comparison.

I prefer AST's playstyle, but the raw potency of SCH in not only healing but damage output is just too good to be ignored. :\

That and the mana management is just a bazillion times better...

Yep, in the same boat.

At least I can play it in void ark now.

Originally Posted by RichardButte

I've tried to stick with AST, but I just can't get over how much better SCH is by comparison.

I prefer AST's playstyle, but the raw potency of SCH in not only healing but damage output is just too good to be ignored. :\

That and the mana management is just a bazillion times better...

To each his own. I was always WHM but am pretty much only AST now. I got SCH to 50 and just can't go further, dunno what it is I just have zero interest in Scholar. I hate using a pet and I don't want to be expected to DPS. I'd rather do it when I'm able to, as I want to heal with any DPS being bonus. I love playing AST now, it can easily keep up with everything I used to do as WHM. I've done Void Ark 5 times so far, always as AST and I've never had any issues. iLVL 191 here.

Use to see over 200 white mages on at night but id wager the astrologian has taken allot of traditional white mage mains.

Originally Posted by Vlady

Use to see over 200 white mages on at night but id wager the astrologian has taken allot of traditional white mage mains.

A lot of that has to do with white mage being way stronger before 3.07 than D.AST, so people invested their esos into WHM and sticked with it for a long time. Besides, I see a ridiculous amount of WHM every day on my own server, already had a Void Ark run where I was the only non-WHM, so N=1 arguments have little value here.

I just wish Nocturnal would be on par with SCH. The AST vs WHM debate has been discussed over and over now and gear has already gone past the point that we could just ditch the discussion and acknowledge it doesn't really matter, but AST vs SCH is such a non-discussion in favor of SCH. It isn't even like nocturnal is weak, at all. Sure, potency-wise it is inferior to diurnal, but it allows you to boost eHP and gives you a spammable 'oh shit' burst heal should you ever be in trouble, and the potency difference isn't even that detrimental aside from Aspected Helios. Against the other benefits of having a SCH though, N.AST just seems like a less reliable healer that requires more effort to match an 'okay' SCH, while a remotely good SCH completely trumps nearly every N.AST.

The more I play, the more I appreciate the other healer WHM slightly larger range on Medica II. As an AST, there are times where I know my Aspected diurnal Helios isn't going to hit everyone reliably. WHM and AST are definitely similar, but they DO have strengths/weaknesses.

Noct just shouldn't have as many weaknesses to SCH very few weaknesses. Too large of a gap. I do hope they don't just increase potency though. Give them something else..like, empower shield by 30% when using CO. Maybe give their shield a % to reflect damage. Or maybe when the shield pops, it heals for 10% of the amount shielded.

I would be all for a new type of shield mechanic for astrologians that gives a partial shield that reduces damage taken by a % until it the damage breaks the shield hp buffer and turn nocturnal into an offensive stance.

Remove cleric stance for astrologian and let nocturnal be a weaker version of cleric stance but no healing potency decreases with above unique shield mechanic.

I think what would be cool, is to change the sects completely, pretty sure it won't happen. Durnal should give lower regens, but gain a percentage of damage taken to the regen porency. Noct could maybe lose initial healing potency but bock a percent of damage for a set time and heal for damage blocked once the timer ran out.
This could allow for greater distinction between healers and make celestial opposition and time dilation useful for noct sect.

Hmm i have been ast from the start of heavenward... What annoys me is that we are compaired to whm and sch.. I dont even say diurnal or nocturnal sect no more only my whm stance or sch stance, which is wrong, i want to heal as a astrologian with my cards xD