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    Player
    Mibgestalt's Avatar
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    Keiten Shinkugan
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    Exodus
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RedHerb View Post
    TL;DR: Give them something new (AND GOOD/USEFUL), don't phase out the old classes. Buff cards, not their heals.
    See I agree with your overall point. But being able to swap to either diurnal or nocturnal isn't a benefit. It's a necessity with how square designed the class. Otherwise either the WHM or Sch healing spot would be over-saturated. If they're gonna stick with this design they gotta fix it.

    No one is really asking for a healing buff. The vast majority want some form of extra damage or utility in Nocturnal to match/approach Scholar.

    RIght now it cant even fulfill a SCH role feasibly. It's worse than WHM in Diurnal, but almost everyone agrees it's to a fair degree atm once some adjustment to cards are taken into account.

    I agree I'd love for it to be a more buff oriented class too, but at the end of the day it also has to be able to fulfill the healing requirements of a given encounter.
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    RedHerb's Avatar
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    Garza Himura
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    I'd honestly even be okay with them being able to swap stances in combat. That'd add a whole extra layer of skill and meaning to "stance dancing."

    Could you imagine swapping between those two and cleric stance in combat? Now that's a class I'd love to master.

    Do that and fix the cards and we'd have something on our hands, especially in 4-man content.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RedHerb View Post
    I'd honestly even be okay with them being able to swap stances in combat. That'd add a whole extra layer of skill and meaning to "stance dancing."

    Could you imagine swapping between those two and cleric stance in combat? Now that's a class I'd love to master.

    Do that and fix the cards and we'd have something on our hands, especially in 4-man content.
    Stance dancing between diurnal and noct would be completely pointless though. The only reason those stances are even there is so AST can fill in the role of throughput or mitigation, whichever isn't present. Switching over to the healing job you already have is just a silly thing to do.
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    Ebi Frye
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Stance dancing between diurnal and noct would be completely pointless though. The only reason those stances are even there is so AST can fill in the role of throughput or mitigation, whichever isn't present. Switching over to the healing job you already have is just a silly thing to do.
    This is not necessarily true. It would make AST+WHM a lot more valuable by eliminating Nocturnal Sect's main problem, which is HoTs being more desirable 90% of the time allowing for more healer DPS. Being able to switch over for when you do need the shields then switch back to more efficient healing would be the easiest fix as it has no consequence on AST+SCH (it's already fine) and AST+AST (devs want to avoid,that).
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    Last edited by Kerrigen; 11-12-2015 at 10:31 PM.

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    Vlady's Avatar
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Duirnal will have to be nerfed or potencies to be nerfed if they allow stance swapping for astrologian.
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Duirnal will have to be nerfed or potencies to be nerfed if they allow stance swapping for astrologian.
    Just put a high mana cost to change stances while putting them under GCD (like Shield/Sword oath) and you can balance things that way instead of reducing the overall potency of the job.
    With this, you make the AST think quite hard as to when to switch and apply some shields.
    It also rewards smart gameplay and good party synergy as well as push the AST to reduce his overhealing (MP saving). It also makes the AST think more about the value of the ewer and arrow to keep for himself.

    No need for a blank hard nerf.
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    Garnet Tribal
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    The only reason this class is having serious balance issues is because it can easily over step WHM/SCH.

    Remove stances and make them a HoT healer like Druid from WoW. BAM! All time magey. They're their own healer now.
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    Raja Vamberaux
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    So does Lightspeed reduce magic attack potency now?
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    Lucille Lifeblossom
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Can confirm Lightspeed is the same, just a change of description.
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