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    Yshnal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    Just legitimately wondering, where did they say they were going to start putting exclusive glamour in the cash shop?
    Here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Q24: Do you have plans to add 3.0’s Y’shtola and Ysayle’s hairstyle?

    A24: We’re planning to introduce a set of equipment and hairstyle which will allow players to look like NPCs as Mog Station optional items. Minfilia’s hairstyle and equipment will be added. The price hasn’t been decided yet, but this one is female-only equipment. (Showed an image of characters dressed as Minfilia.)
    Quote Originally Posted by Tagihi View Post
    problems with cash shops? you know when you clicked on the agreed button for this game then you do agreed to any service that SE will apply, Cash shop price arent even super high compare to F2p game..
    If you still enjoy the game why would this be biggest problem for you?
    So far iknow they been putting up old season events stuff and some random minions
    Yes, we agreed to anything that SE wants to do, and we also don't own anything here and they can delete all our characters if they so want. However, that doesn't mean that you have to agree with anything that they do, nor that you have to stay silent and take it.

    Regarding F2P cash shop prices, FFXIV is the only MMO that I know of, P2P or F2P, that charges monthly for extra storage while having and acknowledged problem with inventory space. Not to mention that even some F2P MMOs let you obtain the vanity items on their cash shop by playing the game, regardless of the grind required to do it. But the cash shop is not the only problem that I have with the game, if you read my OP. There's more to it.
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    Last edited by Yshnal; 10-26-2015 at 02:28 AM.

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    Well to be fair i don't personly care much about cash shop in FFXIV. It dosen't bother me at all. Even if there is small people who does not like this. It's till to low numbers for SE to even consider it to even lower the price or even take it off completely.
    Unless whole community starting go aginst it and they notice a player lose beacuse it. I hard to see this comming tho . I don't see this effect ur gameplay at all. Unless ur glamour addicted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    Minfilia gear and hairstyle is going to be put into cash shop, it is written in Bayohne's Live Letter translation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
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    Thanks. I missed it. That's a shame though....the precedent has been set for non-event related glamour gear being sold. The plot thickens.

    Also, for people saying SE is within their rights to add a cash shop....how many times do we have to tell you, we know already. But just because you have the right to do something, doesn't mean you should or that it's right to do it. I would not want to imagine how the world would function if everyone had this mindset. "If it benefits you and you can do it, you should always do it."

    And for adn, sure WoW's cash shop is far worse. But it started out much more innocently than it is now. After they realized people don't value their money and will throw it at basically anything, they capitalized, and now it's negatively impacted the experience for those who don't agree with the cash shop. You want a fast level? You pay. You want that horse, you pay extra. FFXIV's cash shop is small by comparison, but over time you WILL see it grow and grow and grow if it's profitable because SE is a business before all else, and you will see the game impacted for those who don't use it, as more is added to it that could have been added to the game they're already paying for, and wasn't just because $$$$.

    "Optional" is completely irrelevant. Notice how they emphasized the cash shop's name, "Optional" items, almost as if they need to take attention away from the fact that these items are only somewhat optional for people who want them. The items are technically optional, but for someone who wants something from it, it's as optional as paying for the game itself is. I.E. if you want it but want to play the game you're paying for to get it, tough because there's only one NON-OPTIONAL way to get that "optional" item you already paid once for. We all support the game (and cash shop's) development through our subscription's at the least, so to pick and choose what they resell to us what we've already paid for, and detract from what could have been content gotten from playing the game, you know, what we all actually want to pay to do since I'm sure no one here enjoys paying for the opportunity to pay more for content that has no entertainment value past just having it, is just....wrong, to use a simple but accurate word. It makes it seem like SE values extra cash more than the quality of their game and definitely more than the player's experience in the game, as it's nothing more or less than an exploitation of loose spending habits and a nose turning at an opportunity for improving the game for everyone with a little extra effort.

    Just imagine if SE scrapped Void Ark and just tossed the stuff from it into the cash shop. It would be highly profitable if people allowed it, so there would be little reason not to do that. Less development cost, more profit. But what would the result be? Less content to play and run around in with that rad glamour. People who like instant gratification would be happy, people who like to have access to everything they pay for, playing game content and getting glamour through that (therefore truly getting what they pay for in its entirety), and don't like being charged double for it in order to get it would be unhappy. The impact on the quality of content would be great for people in the latter group. It's not at that point yet of course, but it's a steady journey that will get rockier the more it's allowed to happen, and by the time you draw your personal line, it will be too late to fix things.
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    Last edited by Adire; 10-26-2015 at 03:24 AM.