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  1. #181
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    Most of them seem to think "exploiting" = "bad person/doing something wrong"
    And so since they're definitely NOT a bad person, there is no possible way that they could be exploiting anything... The whole idea is absurd!! D: lol
    Of course it's expoiting a bug, but as you said, most offenders have a "logical" explanation (e.g. forced by the circumstances) for their actions. But rarely is the shiny apple to blame for getting stolen, hahaha!

    if you didnt save up leves you cant do too many to power lvl either. Its all fair
    Say, are you really sure you know what the discussion is about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Learn to Read. Beside FFXIV beeing far away from beeing a WoW-Clone, do you really think someone who brought his character up to 50 in one day will be able to kill it? If so, please go back to WoW and dont let the door hit you.
    Maybe you should take your own advise about reading. WOW took no skill? Yet ifrit uses the same moves as boss fights from wow and their clones. I don't know how you got from ifrit=wow boss fights to ffxvi=wow clone.

    And really, "Go back to wow". This is what you come up with, original. Your intellect astounds me.

    Obviously I'd be playing wow if i wanted to go back to wow. I'd be playing wow if final fantasy ever became a wow clone cause that has years of content over any of its clones.

    I moved on for a reason, and thats to play a f'ing new final fantasy. Not some wow clone or ffxi remake. I want ffxvi to work.
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    Absolutely idiotic. People were told PL'ing is okay. Whether this was a bug or unforeseen complication, SE can't just turn around and punish players for something they said to go ahead and do. Stop being bitter busy bodies because someone can get their levels faster than you did. You should spend more time complaining about things that, you know, actually impact your game play.
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    Well they can't punish people for something the dev's created, of course people are going to take advantage of it.

    Yoshi-p (or was it mocchi) said himself make the most of it whilst you still can .. lol
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    This whole thread sounds like a sketch from Monty Python's Holy Grail.

    FFXVI Rabble : She is a exploiter, burn her burn her!


    I wonder if exploiters float......?
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  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Well they can't punish people for something the dev's created, of course people are going to take advantage of it.

    Yoshi-p (or was it mocchi) said himself make the most of it whilst you still can .. lol
    Yep.

    He also said himself that it was intended, they just didn't foresee it being so potent that you could do NOTHING and still EXP. That's the part of it they are going to fix.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nabiri View Post
    It's funny when people refuse to accept that something is an exploit because it's something they enjoy ^^; They brand the word as purely negative and want nothing to do with it.

    Most of them seem to think "exploiting" = "bad person/doing something wrong"
    And so since they're definitely NOT a bad person, there is no possible way that they could be exploiting anything... The whole idea is absurd!! D: lol

    Exploit: "to utilize, especially for profit; turn to practical account"
    "to make productive use of : utilize <exploiting your talents> <exploit your opponent's weakness>"

    "The coal mine is no longer commercially exploitable (= can no longer be used for profit)."

    "The lack of jobs in this area means that the workforce is easily exploitable (= employers can use workers unfairly for their own advantage)."


    It basically means to take advantage of a situation. It doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing. Saying something isn't exploiting because you have something personally against the word won't change the definition.

    The issue here is one of semantics. The original meaning of the word "exploit" was merely to make use of something advantageous, but the domestic implication of the words usage these days has immoral connotations. To exploit is to take advantage of something in a fashion that potential harms or disadvantages another involved party. You can quote the dictionary meaning of a word, but you can't discount the domestic interpretation -- there's a reason why dictionaries are updated on a regular basis.

    Neither of those is the case here.

    Yoshida himself expressed that the PL system was an intended looseness to allow people to help each other advance through levels. People are using the system as it was intended to be used, the development team merely did not foresee the potency of the function being so strong that people could do nothing and still plow through levels. This is a balancing issue, and people using it is no more of an exploit than using the Experience Chain system.

    Yoshida's team made a mistake with regard to their calculations, and they've already expressed that they aren't going to hold their mistake against the players. The system was intended, the numbers are just higher than they wanted/expected and they've decided they will modify them.

    Hence, not an exploit. It has nothing to do with whether or not you like or enjoy it -- I haven't even used the system, but its not cheating/exploiting in any way.
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  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess View Post
    no .
    I was like ZOMG 10 CHAR HAX? then I saw the quote, booooooooooo haxed my eyes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    I was like ZOMG 10 CHAR HAX? then I saw the quote, booooooooooo haxed my eyes!
    It is hax silly ;D
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess View Post
    It is hax silly ;D
    you exploited the forum! PUNISHMENT INC!
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