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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahzl View Post
    Devs said its perfectly fine. The only upset ones are those with a full compliment of 50s or those without the friends willing to help. We suffer for these players now.
    those of us with full 50s actualy arent upset at all....

    cant plvl crafting and gathering
    and you only need 1 combat at 50 and alot of people already had that, so getting more there doesnt do alot more

  2. #152
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    Noctis Umbra
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    Power-levelling was initially brought up by players on the forum as a reaction to the changes to the claiming system being announced - the changes we see now after 1.19.

    The idea was, now that players could attack enemies claimed by other parties/players and the exp & rewards would go only to the player/party that first claimed it, low level players would engage high rank mobs while a high level friend that is not in a party with them would be able to kill it with ease - effectively allowing the low level player to gain a large amount of sp with very little difficulty and in little time due to the assistance of a high level friend.

    Upon seeing astute players on the forum bringing up this situation, Yoshi responded with his stance - a stance he confirms to stand by even today - that a certain measure of PL is fine and should exist. Therefore, at this point if you feel sour about PLing in general, or think it is horrible and should not exist or whatever, then you are plain and simple out of luck. Either you will accept it and stay or find another game.

    The issue with how PLing is being done right now - the issue they wish to fix is in regards to the exp inhibitor due to large gaps in level between party members not working. This inhibitor existed before 1.19, where one could still PL in the way it is being done now, save the AOE claiming, but not nearly as efficiently. However, as this inhibitor is not functioning, a level 50 is able to kill things off with ease as level 20s gain massive exp while in the party. Furthermore, this allows for the low levels to simply remain still and/or AFK during this time and gain levels.

    This inhibitor will be re-introduced with 1.19a, making it ineffective, perhaps to the extent it was pre-1.19, to have a level 50 player in party kill things for you. PLing will still exist, however, but in the form that was originally foreseen and expected:

    A level ~20 player/party will engage level 30+ mobs
    A level 50 player will then make short work of the mobs engaged by the level ~20 party
    The members of the level 20~ party will gain all the exp they would've had they bested those mobs on their own, but at a much better rate with no difficulty.


    Players being PLed will for the most part be unable to go AFK while being PLed.

    Nobody that takes advantage of the system as it is now deserves to be punished - not until SE says that they do not want players taking advantage of it. If SE puts in a system that doesn't work like they expected it to, it is their fault. Players taking advantage of what is made available to them to advance themselves is only natural.

    Besides, if they felt so strongly about it, they wouldn't be waiting for 1.19a and would be going with an emergency update.
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    Last edited by NoctisUmbra; 10-12-2011 at 03:57 PM.

  3. #153
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    Why really?? How does it hurt you personally?
    Will no one play with you so you cant take advantage?
    Did/Do you have lots of free time so you can spend hours a day levelling?

    Levelling is not an Important Part of an F'ing game, Its just a time-sink to allow Dev to avoid making more content and for company's to get more money in subs...
    Some MMo's Have lots of quests to level with, in those its kinda fun to level.
    In FFXIV is just killing mobs over and over with minimal or no reason other then levelling up...

    An No It's not an exploit, go an learn what it means then come back
    As if it was an exploit any dev team would have hot fix'd it by now,
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  4. #154
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    Kupo Storaifo
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    people who powerlevel their first class are straight up broke. I know because my cousin did 20 levels and can barely afford to buy any crafted gear.
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    When all else fails, Heck the Bed.

  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaveron View Post
    I feel there should be some sort of punishment for those who willing took advantage of power leveling. Either a rollback of the ill gotten experience points, or even a suspension or ban for the really big exploiters. It's unfair to those that leveled legitimately.
    Challenge accepted.
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  6. #156
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    I still think, that while of course you can upgrade your gear, it doesn't offer game changing differences when levelling. When I levelled to 40 on my first character, I was using weathered in every slot and did just fine, and still am now.
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  7. #157
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    They won't punish people for their mistake. People even pointed out the problem of power leveling to Yoshi and the devs and they still couldn't see this coming... so blind.

    Instead of complaining about it, which will get you jack, go and take advantage of it before it's gone.
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  8. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaveron View Post
    I feel there should be some sort of punishment for those who willing took advantage of power leveling. Either a rollback of the ill gotten experience points, or even a suspension or ban for the really big exploiters. It's unfair to those that leveled legitimately.
    You really are a sad person.
    Jeeze. Why don't you complain about not being able to solo exp instead.
    So that SE actually addresses that solo exp is a problem.
    Poor lvl 10s and 15s shouting in uld all day unable to get exp.
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  9. #159
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    Triplicus Alestorm
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    such a religious zealot attitude. Final Fantasy religion really is scary.
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  10. #160
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    Rin Legacy
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    Nah. Of course I'd like to see al rollback. But there's no chance that will happen, because the PLers are, in my and their opinion, not "guilty". Given Yoshis' very ambiguous statement about his stance on PL, it would at least have been possible that things are "working as intended".
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