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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicKirby View Post
    Until we know for sure how difficult airship explorations are, which also give 210, I don't think it's exactly fair or logical to make much easier content give the same rewards as Savage Alex, while Savage Alex is still relevant.

    Still not really selling me on the idea of a non-faceroll raid giving out equivalent gear to content I've been trying to beat for about 12 hours a week for 2 months. There are ways to address this that could also accommodate this harder mode, but I don't think just adding this mode and keeping the other 210 option(s) the same difficulty is fair.
    They already said that the 210 aetherial gear will come from HNMs that are going to be harder in difficulty than the S ranks of hunts. Also, island exploration will not be a server wide zerg fest, it will be 24 man with monsters harder than s-ranks. I think it's safe to to make the assumptions I have made based off of the info SE has provided.

    Your raid gear will already be given out in void ark by virtue of upgrade items. There will be 210 gear from island exploration. The gear in alex savage is virtually meaningless outside of glamour and bis. Actually, BiS will be an island exploration thing, so the only reason to really complete alex savage is for glamour at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    They already said that the 210 aetherial gear will come from HNMs that are going to be harder in difficulty than the S ranks of hunts. Also, island exploration will not be a server wide zerg fest, it will be 24 man with monsters harder than s-ranks. I think it's safe to to make the assumptions I have made based off of the info SE has provided.
    That's a pretty vague statement that doesn't really describe how much harder or more difficult they're actually going to be. From experience with how they've described the difficult of content before it's released in the past, I don't think it's wise to assume the difficulty at all before one gets to actually try the content themselves.

    Plus, Notorious Monsters had low drop rates for gear. So much so that you had to beat them dozens or more times to get the items that you wanted. Are there weekly lock outs? Are there not? We don't know how difficult it is to get the 210 items from Exploration yet, it should be comparable to other means of obtaining that ilevel of gear. And as of right now, that means the incredibly difficult Alex Savage. I don't think a slightly harder 24 man raid would really compare to Alex Savage at the moment, and I don't know enough about Exploration to compare it yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicKirby View Post
    That's a pretty vague statement that doesn't really describe how much harder or more difficult they're actually going to be. From experience with how they've described the difficult of content before it's released in the past, I don't think it's wise to assume the difficulty at all before one gets to actually try the content themselves.Plus, Notorious Monsters had low drop rates for gear. So much so that you had to beat them dozens or more times to get the items that you wanted. Are there weekly lock outs? Are there not? We don't know how difficult it is to get the 210 items from Exploration yet, it should be comparable to other means of obtaining that ilevel of gear. And as of right now, that means the incredibly difficult Alex Savage. I don't think a slightly harder 24 man raid would really compare to Alex Savage at the moment, and I don't know enough about Exploration to compare it yet.
    You still did not address the coats, twines, and dips to come from normal void ark. People will be swimming in 210 gear from faceroll content. There is no reason to not have a harder version that gives similar 210 rewards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    You still did not address the coats, twines, and dips to come from normal void ark. People will be swimming in 210 gear from faceroll content. There is no reason to not have a harder version that gives similar 210 rewards.
    Have they said when they're going to add the gob-upgrades to Void ark? Is it going to be immediately? Wouldn't that immediately invalidate the void ark gear in the same dungeon and time it was introduced? Or are they going to add them further down the road in 3.1 similar to how they added Carbon-upgrades to tower climbs later in the patch?

    I don't think making 210 vastly easier to get immediately when 3.1 drops is a good idea.
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    You might as well be asking for dead-on-arrival content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    You might as well be asking for dead-on-arrival content.
    Or you know, content that will actually require a FC or network of friends within your server. Community building etc.
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