Thread: 3.1 First update without a new primal?

Originally Posted by Nalien

I assure you, my head isn't in the sand, but at the same time I'm not wearing rose tinted glasses and acting like Ifrit (Extreme) was some kind of massive inclusion, you want a real break down of what 2.1 added? Here;

• New Main Scenario Missions, standard.
• Good King Moggle Mog, which was new, unless you played 1.23.
• Three Extreme Primals, all of which were just recycled from existing content.
• The Ultima Ballad, another piece of recycled content.
• Treasure Maps, which offered a three unique minions and recycled existing enemies and drops.
• Amalj'aa and Sylph Dailies, this was actually new.
• Wolves' Den, which may have added stuff, but needs 3.2 to bail it out (and to clarify, Wolves' Den Pier was in there at launch).
• Housing, which is still waiting on its bail out.
• Crystal Tower, with its own set of gear.
• One new dungeon, two recycled dungeons, all of which dropped a set of gear which was recycled off existing gear.
• Hildibrand, how could we forget him.
• Haircuts.

That is the quality 2.1 added. Notice how much of it is simply recycled from old content? I sure as hell do. I notice stuff which, to this day, people are complaining about and demanding be fixed.

Now lets look at what we know 3.1 will be adding;

• New Main Scenario Missions, standard.
• Void Ark, with its own set of gear and recycles at least one boss.
• Reclamation of inactive Housing. What? You're going to count the ~500 plots 2.1 added but not this? (Just a rehash of housing)
• One new dungeon, one recycled dungeon, an entirely new set of gear. (Just a rehash of a dungeon)
• Vanu Vanu Dailies. (just a rehash of beast tribe dailies)
• Saint Endalim Scholasticate quests. (To what? flag the dungeon? Get real)
• New Relics, though we know little about these. (rehashed content from ARR)
• Lord of Verminion, which you're as quick to discredit in the same way I "discredit" Wolves' Den and Housing...
• Sky Exploration, which is an entirely new event, and entirely new zone, complete with an entirely new set of gear. (rehash of hunts)

That's what we know. Unconfirmed stuff, like speculating The Singularity Reactor (Extreme) (rehashed trial), I'll leave out for now. Still a ways off 3.1 actually being released, so there is plenty of time for them to add stuff to this list.

You know what I see here though? Less recycling of old content. In fact, I see more new sets of gear, I see an entirely new zone. I consider that kind of content to be worth more than something like haircuts, or something people can't even use because of how poorly it was implemented. When 3.1 hits, I'll be able to play Lord of Verminion, I'll be able to go exploring the sky, I'll be able to obtain Relics. The same simply wasn't true for something like Housing and indeed still isn't.

More things =/= better. Where were you complaining about 2.2 onwards, because I'm fairly certain no update has added more than 2.1... How could they? 2.1 had three Extremes and Ultima, never mind they fact that they were heavily recycled. I'm looking at 2.1 for what it was, a lot of recycled stuff and stuff that didn't, and still doesn't work. Likewise, I'm looking at 3.1 for what it is, less quantity, but easily the chance for better quality. Excuse me for not being so bloody pessimistic about new content, how dare I consider Sky Exploration on its own to be worth more than anything 2.1 added, 2.1 added haircuts for crying out loud, that's so bloody amazing, 3.1 is just terrible for adding an entirely new area to explore.

Allows me to use your rehashed logic against you. I bolded everything in your argument that is just a rehash of content we have already had. I guess we must be looking at different posts, I see a lot of rehashed content. 2.2 had a new difficult raid, so I was content with that. Keep hoping that the sky pirates content is as good as you are trumping it up to be, I will be more than happy to come back in two weeks to bump this thread when it just turns out to be instanced hunts.

Again, two dungeons vs three dungeons.
Again, two trials vs five trials.
Rehashed or not (because SR ex is a rehash) 2.1 had five trials, 3.1 has two.

I don't need to drag housing or pvp or lord of verminion or any of that other content into this argument, although I still think 2.1 had MORE misc. content. 3.1 has less end game content than most of the ARR patches just by virtue or dungeons and trials. You are simply wrong because of the mathematical fact that 2 < 3 and 2 < 5. You refuse you see that as a valid complaint, you are being willfully ignorant, your head is firmly placed in that sand bank regardless if you can see it or not.

edit: miscounted