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    Player LongsunZhao's Avatar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60

    I wake up and click on FFXIV logo...

    And realise I have nothing to do until next week.

    Everything is so gated that I'm actually playing it based on the date and day...

    I'm not sure I'm liking where all these gates are coming from, Eso, Crafting, Alexander, Void Ark, Beast Tribes...

    Not sure I can be bothered with it anymore.

    £9 a month for a day of playing... Daylight robbery.
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    Player LongsunZhao's Avatar
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    Really struggling to find anything fun in this anymore.
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    Maybe you should wake up and go out and do something.
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    Player LongsunZhao's Avatar
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    Yeah I would, but various bone diseases make this hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongsunZhao View Post
    Yeah I would, but various bone diseases make this hard.
    Hard but not impossible.
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    Player LongsunZhao's Avatar
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    Why does everyone say that? Rushed through the game? I mean. Wasn't Heavensward released 5 months ago? Not 5 days ago? Stupid thing to say, people are not rushing the game, people are bored to death. GATE GATE GATE! All they know!!
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongsunZhao View Post
    Why does everyone say that? Rushed through the game? I mean. Wasn't Heavensward released 5 months ago? Not 5 days ago? Stupid thing to say, people are not rushing the game, people are bored to death. GATE GATE GATE! All they know!!
    Yeah, I love how people are all U RUSH UR OWN FAULT DKFSADFJKS when in fact if we don't "RUSH" we end up doing content with gimps who can't play and expect carries and can't clear AND it gets nerfed...SO WE HAVE NO CHOICE you either do it when it comes out along with everyone else or you get stuck with the bads. PLEASE STOP SAYING TO STOP RUSHING its contradicting to what SE does with the nerfing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongsunZhao View Post
    Why does everyone say that? Rushed through the game? I mean. Wasn't Heavensward released 5 months ago? Not 5 days ago? Stupid thing to say, people are not rushing the game, people are bored to death. GATE GATE GATE! All they know!!
    well, you don't have to keep playing. Maybe go find something else to play or do. Many of us are still enjoying the content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuel81 View Post
    well, you don't have to keep playing. Maybe go find something else to play or do. Many of us are still enjoying the content.
    Oh for goodness sakes, please can people stop using this argument instead of addressing the concerns raised? It doesn't make you intelligent, or witty, it just makes you come across as someone who doesn't have a cohesive response.

    Let's get the obvious out of the way first. This game has flaws. This should be a no-brainer for everyone, because there's no such thing as flawless, ever. A lot of people hate the scrip system, myself included. I feel it's an unwarranted obstacle. The rewards offered are too low, and the cap is too low. The ingredients used to make some of the higher end recipes even REQUIRE the use of scrips to make, so you get even less of a return on them.

    If you've carefully constructed a masterpiece, only to miss the deadline hand-in by a few minutes, there's no telling when the next hand-in will be for that item. I had an Opal Ring in my inventory for 5 more weeks before I was able to trade it in! It's not as if you can devalue it to a HQ item, even if the quality bar was maxed, and NQ items are next to worthless.

    Can we also talk about why level 140+ items are still converting into tier 3 materia? If I can convert a level 55 chestpiece into a T4 materia, shouldn't the higher level stuff be way out of the Tier 3 park by now? We should be looking at a chance to get T5 materia through conversion with the really high level stuff, but I'm pretty sure it's only available through Mutamix currently.

    Anyway, enough of my ranting. The point is, the OP has a really good argument. What do you do when you hit all your caps for the week? You can't progress your crafts any further, you can't get better gear for your White Mage or your Paladin, and you basically just log off until the following week. For myself, this is why I play it in shorter bursts. I'll log in, do some crafts, do my dailies, and then log off. I do this once every day so I can reach my caps. This might mean playing for an hour or two each day, tops.

    Crafting is a bit of casual fun for me, but the scrips turned it into a relentless grind (so did the earlier 3-star grind, as it required insane levels of expensive materia melding to qualify, but this is much worse) and it's taken some of the fun out of it. I'm on record as saying I was actually looking forward to the system as, on paper at least, it sounded like a great way to get high end gear without too much hassle.

    I think I gave them too much credit.
    Quote Originally Posted by kuma_aus View Post
    If you have nothing to do, can't you craft some HQ 50+ recipes or something?
    Well, sure you could. But there's a few issues. Firstly, the MSQ and sidequests give away most of the crafted gear between levels 51-59 like they were Halloween candy. And they're all HQ, so we don't even have that as an advantage. This significantly devalues them, and basically means the only ones who care to buy are themselves crafters looking to hand-in for levequests. At level 60, you do NOT have any level 60 crafts by default. They're all gated behind the scrip system, and you will need a fair number of hand-ins to get your recipe books.

    Incidentally, all of the level 60 quests also require recipes hidden within these recipe books.

    So, while you can HQ some recipes there's nothing truly valuable which isn't either a pain in the butt to obtain the materials for, or is otherwise gated in the first place.
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    Last edited by Lemuria; 11-01-2015 at 05:45 PM.

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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    I have plenty of stuff to do, but unlike the masses, I didn't rush through the game at break-neck speeds and paced myself while still doing stuff IRL (such as hanging out with friends, spending time with my girl friend, working, etc.)

    FFXIV is not a game designed to be no-lifed. It's designed for the casual playerbase, which means things aren't necessarily hard nor time-consuming, but just short enough to allow them to be completed before the next patch for 99% of all players. No-lifers are going to continue to be sorely disappointed around every turn.
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