Lack of male/masculine glamours.

[Theodric]

I say just wait until there's more glamours (because there will be) and everyone decides what makes it masculine or not, for THEM.

A lot of people have been waiting patiently, getting a few scraps here and there. For the FFXIII event we saw male characters gain access to Snow's outfit and that worked brilliantly - because the outfit is very stereotypically masculine and was built specifically for male characters. Since then, however, there haven't been many 'masculine' sets designed specifically for male characters. Which is where a lot of the discussion is coming from.

[Iagainsti]

Not sure how this is sexual orientation shaming. I'm also not sure where these straight pride parades are happening - frankly, that would probably be proclaimed as confrontational and homophobic.
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Contrast comparison...... XD there's no such thing as a Straight Pride Parade. Apologies that my humour is over your head.

What's with all the hashtags? Is this what all the cool kids are doing now?

Yes. This is what all the cool kids are doing. #humour

[SchalaZeal]

Not sure how this is sexual orientation shaming. Gay pride parades are terrific and a chance for LGBT to openly proclaim that they are not afraid to be proud of who they are, often underscored by how they dress for the event.

Except sexy men are not necessarily gay, anymore than sexy women are necessarily lesbian. And sexy men can show skin. Or wear form-fitting stuff. Or have long hair (I don't know what male characters have for options about long hair, but I felt even the female options too short - I wear my hair at my waist, anything else is short).

Women can like men for their physiques, they can be sexually attracted by visual stuff. Whodatunkit. I think the difference is the peer pressure to boast about it vs not appear too slutty. The existence of yaoi says "men liking lesbians cause hot" has its reverse.

[Kallera]

What are you folks talking about, its just the nature of fashion. Alteration to body type happens all the time.

I get the spirit of this thread, even while playing an elezen lass. I wish there was more "all classes" outfits of yore instead of "material garment of verb" that seemed to infest the crafting log post i70 and chain every fashionable thing down.

I would like to say though, on the subject of "manly man garments for men only", its kinda just the nature of fashion and alteration that a lot of male outfits can also fit women, given a few changes.

[Calypsx]

I would be all for more choices for you guys if I didn't hear people constantly ragging on my favorite robes for my dragonboy as I read through the pages (Astro robes, Orthodox robes, Summoner robes).

Ask for your own stuff but don't go off on some rant about already existing stuff that guys like me actually DO like on their character and imply there is something wrong with a set of armor because it's too feminine. There is nothing wrong about the amount of elegant looking gear in this game, there doesn't need to be less of it, but having more options in general would be nice.

Ask for more glamour that fits what you want, but hating on existing sets that some players do like and calling them a problem because they are not manly is not the answer and makes it really really hard for me and others to want to support you.

[Riardon]

I don't hate the robes nor I want all the skins which are not my taste to be removed. I just want more skins of likes. That's all. Some robes are nice for men. I just feel that most skins for males are just boring or reworks of older skins (cough cough Void Ark sets cough cough).

[Calypsx]

Which is fine and awesome! More skins of all likes is important to the game and I agree. I just think the posts could do with a bit less fashion bashing and more posting about things they would actually like to see for their characters.

This game is really important to me because it allows me to dress in pretty armor which is usually exclusive too women. However I think everyone deserves a way to express their own personal individuality and seeing examples of what people want on their characters without having to hate on existing stuff gets my total support.

[the-kuponut]

This game is really important to me because it allows me to dress in pretty armor which is usually exclusive too women. However I think everyone deserves a way to express their own personal individuality and seeing examples of what people want on their characters without having to hate on existing stuff gets my total support.

This :O ! Thank you !!
I love these robes along with the Orison robe (WHM's eso robe) :3

More options would be good but please don't say that robes or gear sets you consider "feminine" look awful on men ;n; ! They look awesome on men imo :3

[Koroem]

Funny how all the guys from previous FF titles mentioned are are FF7 and above, while this game pays a lot of homages to the first 6 ...

Funny how you chose to ignore how I pointed that out before I even posted any pictures:

I'm going to VERY BRIEFLY point out some past Final Fantasy male styles. I'm not going to go through all of them, just a couple that pop off the top of my head and are fairly more recent so most everyone around may have at least played these games in their lifetime.

Not to mention that argument is invalid because of the inclusion of Snow/Cloud glamours. Even if they are Vet/event rewards they are still present in game so there is no hard rule against their inclusion.

[Hakuohsama]

Well thats not manly?



The biggest issue is with most of the healer clases...
Just look at this.


Healer equip needs to be desinged for both clases.
Most BRD gear is skirt like too..