Time on House removal/reclaming is way to short! (private houseing)

[Zephanoa]

I will say that for service members this is a really crappy situation. That being said, I feel like if you're not playing then why keep the house? It's like hoarding something you don't intend on using like once in a blue moon... I just don't understand that at all. I will agree with those that say that they aren't really addressing the issue by taking the houses back after the time limit. It will help a little bit but honestly they need to just add more zones and improve the zone management.

[Rina_Leonhart]

So question is, can your tenants reset that timer on private houses? Because if not, they should change it so they can. That way people in the military or something else that comes up that makes it so you can't log in for 45 days, can ask friends to make sure they don't lose the house.

[Yunona]

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You call them no lifers, I was gonna agree its a little to early for people who work hard, but the only people defending you are all Jerks. You are saying they have no lives or they are kids. You are a jerk. I pay bills, work, go to college pay tuition, deal with medical bills too. I am an adult but you know what no. Maybe letting newbies get a house isn't terrible if you have to be a jerk to keep yours. you and that other guy who said we should have got here earlier only prove you want to just argue. I still think it be nice to keep more days available for people in certain circumstances. However, your approach is childish and rude. You of all people don't deserve to keep a house if you just want to be unfair to people in general.

[Liavain_Axon]

45 days is wayyyy to short. That basically means I have to play FFXIV or else now. If cant take any time off without losing my home!

That's horrible SE!

This needs to be like 6 months, or 3 months at the shortest!

This feels like black mail since anyone might have to stop playing for a few months and you arent even giving them two full pay periods to take a break in!

Is this how you plan on keeping your customers long term? Blackmail?

This is pathetic.

No offense, but we have limited plots of housing and adding more requires more fiddling with server hardware. Having a house in FFXIV is a privilege only few can have. Adding the requirement of logging in once a month to keep a house is reasonable.

Private houses serve only few actual purposes. Having an inactive home is selfish. If you can't be bothered to log in once a month, then maybe having a house isn't for you.

First off sharing a house does squat since they made it strictly up to the owner to stop it from being demolished. Secondly, and this is the big kicker that is pissing most people off, just paying the sub won't stop demolition. When I was deployed on a ship I couldn't exactly bring my gaming desktop with me for 6 months and I was single so I didn't have anyone to pop in and log in for me, not to mention the fact I have an authenticator so that wouldn't be an option anyways. Remember SE doesn't sell physical authenticators and I'm not leaving my phone in an empty apartment for 6+ months. If we could just pay our subs and not have to worry about a time limit that wouldn't be as bad, still a money grab from hell that no other MMO has ever done to their player base, but would still be manageable. The first houses will be freeing up around christmas and guess what there will still be a vast housing shortage across all servers because they only made enough houses for about 1-2% of the player population. A little over 1k houses per server is like putting a drop in an empty pond and expecting it be full. This is a quick grab at money and placating to everyone screaming. Its not going to fix the problem at all but everyone who called for this is so proud of themselves and think they did so well until this goes sideways and people start getting screwed. For a game that advertises housing for its players not only have they failed miserably at delivering but now they're taking houses away unless you pay them and have time to get on. Imagine if this wasn't housing. Imagine if instead it was gear or levels. You'd be pretty pissed if you weren't able to log in and after 45days you started loosing hard earned levels or gear. Well housing is pretty dang hardwork to save up for and maintain. I spend time crafting and gardening just so that I can have my own little spot. If I can't make it to my computer after just a month and half and I lose all my hardwork because of something purely out of my control then I'm not going to pay for a sub to a game that screwed me and I'm gonna warn everyone else I know who plays. Honestly you'd be shocked how many service member play MMOs. There's a lot of us and none are going to put up with getting screwed over for doing their job.

Simple solution- Remove the Authenticator to let someone you authorize to log in and put it back on afterwards. You can do this via any web browser or even your phone.

Ultima Online required you to log into your home once a week to keep it "refreshed". (They did change that eventually for people who only had one home)
Archage requires you to pay "taxes" on your home every week to keep it or it gets demolished. (Only subscribers can pay taxes)

The current housing system does need a rework. Everyone should have the capability to have a home.

[Rina_Leonhart]

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This is not Ultima Online or Archage. They had the expectation of not having this issue when they bought their house, but either way a timer in the long run was needed because they couldn't just find all the true inactives any other way. Not liking how short it is tbh, but better then what they had originally planned out (though not by much). By paying a sub, you are a paying customer even if you don't use the plot. Maybe your friends will still use the garden while the owner is away. It isn't like the plot may never have a use by the inactive, yet paying player. I also think they should not make you have to enter the house to reset the timer. A subscription should be good enough. That or make it so tenants have the ability to reactivate it for private homes.

[Blitzace]

I don't see the problem. Have a friend login for you? thats so simple. I'm sure we all have a friend here who could do that.
Its simple houses are on high demand. do the math, how many people play on a server on average? How many houses in total?

As i see it now, people who own a house are lucky. If you wanna keep that house? logging in once every 45 days doesn't seem that bad to me.
And Don't make it so tenants can't reset the process... That means 99.9% houses will never get on the free market again.

[Rina_Leonhart]

What's the difference in having a friend reset it on your character vs a friend being a tenant on their own character and resetting it? Due to subscription? But then if the other person is making use of the house while actual owner is away due to family member issues or deployment, the house isn't going to waste in the end. The biggest issue most people had was the limited resource just sitting there unused and rotting due to someone perma quitting. But if it is being used by someone, then what is the issue? In the end, SE needs a second housing system that allows gardening and won't be as limited due to the style taking up so much server space.

[Beckett]

What's the difference in having a friend reset it on your character vs a friend being a tenant on their own character and resetting it?

The potentially nicer way of looking at it is: I could quit the game, and my buddy who's still playing, and already has a house of his own, could "keep the house warm" for me. Even though I might never come back to the game, that house remains unavailable because my friend is walking into it once a month, and my house will remain unavailable unless my buddy quits too.

The cynical (and likely correct) way of looking at it is that one gets SE a sub, the other doesn't.

[Rina_Leonhart]

But they are still getting a sub one way or the other. The friend can just let it go if they wanted to. But if it's about subs, then it just bounces back to the whole "they should make timer subscription based, not walk in based" in the end. It really isn't any different then having the friend log into your account to do it.

[MilaDazol]

This claiming system is really good, good for SE, because it can cash more people to pay their monthly sub, and good for the active players who play the game, as more houses will be available for them.

The private housing will not allow never tenants to reset the timer, so will force more houses in to the market, which is also good for the active players; that's a problem for you? use a FC house instead and let your pals reset it.

If you are so worried about losing your private house because you cant log in, ask a friend or a relative to lend you the money for the sub and let them, with your character, set a foot in it. (if you don't have money, friends or relatives, that's another, more serious problem you should solve first before worrying about a virtual house)

And yes, I have a home I worked a lot to get, (in Balmung, a really crowded world); and I do understand there's a lot of things SE has a LOT of work to do, like obviously, create more houses, and houses belonging to one account with multiple alts.