Time on House removal/reclaming is way to short! (private houseing)

[Syrehn]

The thing is it's not inactive players who are choking the housing market, its cheaters/bots who are..

I don't think you're right on this point.

I've know a lot of players that are part of friends/family FC's or "couple" FC's that have homes/personal homes and haven't logged in for months. At the same time I know players that use their alts for multiple personal homes as well as multiple FC's; they're active but use those additional properties mostly for dress up.

Think about this for a minute if every account can have 8 characters per server and all of those characters are an FC leader that also owns personal housing that's 16 houses per server that could potentially be tied up by 1 individual. Now, I'm sure that it would be a rare scenario to find an account with 16 houses on a single server, but as mentioned, there are individuals/fc's that utilize this to their advantage and do have multiple homes.

So it's really inactive players combined with the fact that SE hasn't implemented a 1 house per account per server rule that is choking the housing market, not the bots.

Edit:

Yeah those people who can buy multiple houses I declare "cheaters" (if they have medium and up) but I guess i'll rewrite to clarify what I ment.

Ah, well they might be "cheaters" in your eyes but to SE they technically aren't since they aren't circumventing any rules because those rules don't actually exist.

[Maddonious]

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Yeah those people who can buy multiple houses I declare "cheaters" (if they have medium and up) but I guess i'll rewrite to clarify what I ment.

[Ayerinn]

So it's really inactive players combined with the fact that SE hasn't implemented a 1 house per account per server rule that is choking the housing market, not the bots.


Ah, well they might be "cheaters" in your eyes but to SE they technically aren't since they aren't circumventing any rules because those rules don't actually exist.

I have mixed feelings about alts owning houses - it is SE's fault for having such god awful relationships between characters on your own account. No shared bank space, can't mail alts, etc. Unless the share house feature is extended to your alts, I don't see it being fair to implement a one house per server/account rule.

[Malicewolf]

I have mixed feelings about alts owning houses - it is SE's fault for having such god awful relationships between characters on your own account. No shared bank space, can't mail alts, etc. Unless the share house feature is extended to your alts, I don't see it being fair to implement a one house per server/account rule.

See, but with this, I have a bit of a problem. So what I'm hearing is, you have multiple houses. If you made all 8 accounts available on a standard service, then you may have taken 8 houses away from people. And this is assuming you aren't taking one for FC's and that you are not in difference FC's on all the alts. So now, you have an abundance of characters, which you only play on some constantly, the other's are most likely (pls note, I'm saying most likely) just a pass time you log into every once and a while. I will agree, this problem could easily be solved if SE just allowed alt's to enter the same house this could be solved. (seriously, they should just add in a renting house/room system :P). But even still, I don't see the need for people to have personal houses on alts. Yea, it's nice that you can, but that just goes along with the whole "if you don't have the time to attend to it, then why not let others who will use it?".

[Nymeria2x]

Not really her problem. Housing should be available to everyone. Atm though SE was dumb enough to not only make just enough houses for 1-2% of the total server population, but they went and made it so private housing and FC housing were the same so we're all competing against each other. Like she said if they allow you to share a house with your alts and added in better features for alts then it wouldn't be an issue but the fact is they didn't so each character is on its own unless your form a private FC. They obviously want people to have alts and understand that people want them otherwise they wouldn't offer the option to have multiple alts on a server. You may not see the need but the fact is that housing is a big part of the game. Its the only way to garden, train and dye chocobos and they keep releasing housing items as holiday rewards so either they believe everyone should have housing to use this stuff or the holiday events are irrelevant to 98% of the player populations.

[warren-ragnarok]

Housing should be available to everyone. Atm though SE was dumb enough to not only make just enough houses for 1-2% of the total server population, but they went and made it so private housing and FC housing were the same so we're all competing against each other.

this right here, especially after Yoshi stated there would be more than enough housing, everyone would get a small, and it would be affordable (think i saw him quoted saying it would be 850k)

Gil often is not much the trouble, the trouble is the lost of all the rare/expensive items that are lost on removal. Those stuff only worth often 3 or 4 times the whole plot price, and all the trouble we had get through to get them. That effort is lost and at least for me would be just enough cause to left the game forever.

i own a medium house that costed 18m and all my furniture i farmed and crafted myself, so i didnt really consider costs of items, but i do agree there should be some way to guarantee that the items go back to you if you still have a sub or cant loose a house while you have a sub

[Niwashi]

I have mixed feelings about alts owning houses - it is SE's fault for having such god awful relationships between characters on your own account. No shared bank space, can't mail alts, etc. Unless the share house feature is extended to your alts, I don't see it being fair to implement a one house per server/account rule.

SE can either allow alts to have their own houses or allow alts to share a house with each other. I'd actually prefer the later, and think we should have a lot more interchange between our characters. But what would be totally wrong is adding a 1 house per account rule before fixing the nearly impenetrable wall between our alts. The question isn't why are alts allowed to each get their own house, it's why are alts required to each get their own house in order to have housing access.

There's talk of some sort of house sharing coming up but I haven't seen any finalized plans for it yet. Most speculation seems to be that it's going to be based on allowing certain Friends to share your house, though, and since you cannot Friend your own alts, they're likely to be locked out of it. If that's wrong, and sharing with our alts becomes a thing, well then maybe that 1 house per account rule could become viable.