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  1. #131
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    Niwashi's Avatar
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    If you care about your primal and other irremovable housing items then you shouldn't unsub for 45 days.
    IDK, maybe I'm weird, but none of those items are incredibly hard to get a second time, nor are they fancy enough to throw a fit over losing. My two cents, anyway.
    But it's not just those items. It's also the fact that you only have one month in which to get back anything at all.

    It's commonplace for players to leave a game for several months, even a few years, and then come back again. Nobody would expect to still have a housing plot in a limited-plot system like this, but there IS generally an expectation that you can pick up where you left off and still have all your stuff. That's why characters, along with their inventory and retainer inventory, are kept permanently.

    But now housing items are NOT. After a month, you get nothing at all to show for your biggest investment of the entire game. All your gil is gone and all your items are gone. There are a few of the rare ones for which you don't even get that month, so it's a slightly bigger issue for those pieces. But the fact that beyond the one month window you get nothing is the main problem.
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  2. #132
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    But it's not just those items. It's also the fact that you only have one month in which to get back anything at all.

    It's commonplace for players to leave a game for several months, even a few years, and then come back again. Nobody would expect to still have a housing plot in a limited-plot system like this, but there IS generally an expectation that you can pick up where you left off and still have all your stuff. That's why characters, along with their inventory and retainer inventory, are kept permanently.

    But now housing items are NOT. After a month, you get nothing at all to show for your biggest investment of the entire game. All your gil is gone and all your items are gone. There are a few of the rare ones for which you don't even get that month, so it's a slightly bigger issue for those pieces. But the fact that beyond the one month window you get nothing is the main problem.
    I can see person debating couple months but years? I have no sympathy for anyone that decides not to play for years. What with FFXI SE stated if they wanted to they could delete character data after I think it was 90 days of not being subbed. Anyways this only effects original house owners people that bought reclaimed houses or when add new wards know the terms and their decision if they want to accept those terms and buy a house or not.
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  3. #133
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    Victoria Silverdawn
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    I think they need to limit the houses to 1 per account. No reason for any person to have 4 houses... I have seen plots that people have bought... but not built a house for a year... if you are just buying the plot to resell it.. then resell it before you disappear for months, or if you leave it on your alt... log in as your alt and free up that spot for a person who will actually use it... crazyness I know...people will argue that because they bought 6 houses they deserve them all, blah blah blah... Just holding the plot just to say I can afford it is selfish and stupid... Keep the house as your main, but let go of those extra houses, sell them, give them away, or just let them go. Dont cry over the millions you spent... you didnt have to buy the houses, you did, your choice, no one elses, so dont play victim because you wont get your fake money back. I know friends who have a FC from 2.0 beta... who still are looking for a house...
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    with FFXI SE stated if they wanted to they could delete character data after I think it was 90 days of not being subbed
    Well, of course they can delete stuff. It's their data. Companies will assert their rights to a lot of things they wouldn't actually do. It would be bad business practice and lose them a lot of money, but it's still their right to do it.

    That just sounds like 90 days is likely the point at which old character data gets transferred off the active character database to be stored on backup systems. They'll still bring back the data for anyone who re-subscribes, because no company is going to turn down easy money. (It's also why they host periodic welcome back weekends and the like. SE, like any game hosting company, wants their former players to come back. And many of those former players do come back.)

    Their lawyers are going to insist on pointing out they're under no legal obligation to restore old data. That's just a protection in case of a technical failure in the backup systems, not an indication of how they want to run their business.
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 01-21-2016 at 07:43 AM.

  5. #135
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    My son shared his house with me as he doesn't play a lot, so yeah sometimes he's off the game for a months at a time. Will it be demolished if it's shared with me? I use it. Any info on this matter will be greatly appreciated, thank you!
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiya View Post
    My son shared his house with me as he doesn't play a lot, so yeah sometimes he's off the game for a months at a time. Will it be demolished if it's shared with me? I use it. Any info on this matter will be greatly appreciated, thank you!
    If it is a personal house. He needs to enter it in order to reset the time. Only FC houses are reset when random members enter.

    Halting Demolition
    Any free company member or private housing owner entering the estate at any time prior to demolition will cancel the demolition process.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...3e7ccabefa9954
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    Last edited by Lan_Mantear; 06-28-2016 at 04:34 AM.

  7. #137
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    holy mother of revivals. 5 month old topic gets brought back to life :P

    But yea, your son will need to log on and enter the house every 45 days, else it will demolish, even though you are using it.
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  8. #138
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    N'yuuki Nekohmi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malicewolf View Post
    holy mother of revivals. 5 month old topic gets brought back to life :P

    But yea, your son will need to log on and enter the house every 45 days, else it will demolish, even though you are using it.
    I like the concept of the decay timer but this is one of the restrictions I don't agree with. I honestly think that if you're using the house sharing feature, one of those 3 people should be able to walk in and reset the timer; especially if they're actively using the property.

    @Hiya - The decay timer is paused right now but you might want to have him log in when it's reactivated so you don't get booted.
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  9. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    I like the concept of the decay timer but this is one of the restrictions I don't agree with. I honestly think that if you're using the house sharing feature, one of those 3 people should be able to walk in and reset the timer; especially if they're actively using the property.

    @Hiya - The decay timer is paused right now but you might want to have him log in when it's reactivated so you don't get booted.
    Hi from the other thread! (not stalking you). Have they said when the decay timer will start again? Would totally be ok with a part you suggested if I could save enough for a Medium. I'm not willing to give up my plot in Mist unless it was for a medium, and not in the Goblet. Also they really need to allow that alt sharing thing. That would be a good solution.
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  10. #140
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    N'yuuki Nekohmi
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliviaJ View Post
    Hi from the other thread! (not stalking you). Have they said when the decay timer will start again? Would totally be ok with a part you suggested if I could save enough for a Medium. I'm not willing to give up my plot in Mist unless it was for a medium, and not in the Goblet. Also they really need to allow that alt sharing thing. That would be a good solution.
    XD

    They said that it's suspended until the release of patch 3.35
    Source - Just search "Housing" in these patch notes.
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