Can we get an Official clarification on housing Demolish timer (45 or 90?)

[sirDarts]

Quite frankly, if you are not even logging in once every 45 days, you have no need for a house, and you are just keeping it from people who'd ACTUALLY utilize it.

[Sicno]

Quite frankly, if you are not even logging in once every 45 days, you have no need for a house, and you are just keeping it from people who'd ACTUALLY utilize it.

For a FC I can understand. For a personal house... there's a 3 month gap between content patches. Currently we're on a 5 month gap because the devs took a well deserved vacation. 45 days may be too little for some people who burn through the content fast.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

For a FC I can understand. For a personal house... there's a 3 month gap between content patches. Currently we're on a 5 month gap because the devs took a well deserved vacation. 45 days may be too little for some people who burn through the content fast.

No offense, but then you are not someone SE will cater to. Not everyone burns through content quickly nor is running it all the want to do. Why should these players be punished when they're actively paying for those 3-5 month intervals because others have unsubbed to play something else? It's just bad business on SE's part, and makes far more sense to offer benefits to consistently paying customers as those are the people likely to stick with you longer.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

No offense, but then you are not someone SE will cater to. Not everyone burns through content quickly nor is running it all the want to do. Why should these players be punished when they're actively paying for those 3-5 month intervals because others have unsubbed to play something else? It's just bad business on SE's part, and makes far more sense to offer benefits to consistently paying customers as those are the people likely to stick with you longer.

...? Aren't casual players the ones that unsub the most because FFXIV "isn't their whole life" like they've accussed hardcore people of doing and to play other games, the ones that have told hardcore people that it's okay to take a break and unsub then come back? You gotta be kidding me. You ask why should people who keep paying be punished, well, I could ask Why should people that own a house and pay for the game be punished if something happens that it's out of their control? They did not implement this flawed system in the first place. These people who own a house probably had to make some sacrifices to be able to find a plot of land and they deserve all the right to it since they found it and bought it first. Unless they completely stop playing, they deserve the plot they bought.

Whatever though, not surprised by the OF anymore.

[WinterLuna]

Why should people that own a house and pay for the game be punished if something happens that it's out of their control?

Not aimed at you in particular, but if people just said 'I don't think 45 days is long enough' instead of dragging specific things like military deployment and illness into it then there would be a lot less arguments and people disagreeing with the whole situation.

A player who is paying their subscription and is actively playing has just as much entitlement as a player who can't play because of uncontrollable situations and the sooner people realise this, the better. Just because someone can't play because of something unfortunate does not give them any benefit over someone who actually is playing the game and wants a house.

I'm actually going to just leave this thread though since the OP's previous post kind of infuriates me. Can't believe people think it's okay to twist people's words like that.

[Sicno]

I'm actually going to just leave this thread though since the OP's previous post kind of infuriates me. Can't believe people think it's okay to twist people's words like that.

The only things that are twisted here are the words by the original posters themselves. Some horrible stuff has been said indeed.

[Raist]

A player who is paying their subscription and is actively playing has just as much entitlement as a player who can't play because of uncontrollable situations and the sooner people realise this, the better. Just because someone can't play because of something unfortunate does not give them any benefit over someone who actually is playing the game and wants a house.

Getting into the slippery slope arena here...

By this logic, anyone who has unsubbed or been inactive for 45 days can rightfully have their character deleted to reclaim resources for new character creation on a locked server.

Technically, we are not entitled to any virtual asset in this game. Read the terms of your agreement if you believe differently.

This is not a proper solution for the housing shortage. This is more like Eminent Domain run amuck because they can't/won't use the resources necessary to implement a better design to properly accommodate the demand for housing plots.

[WinterLuna]

The only things that are twisted here are the words by the original posters themselves. Some horrible stuff has been said indeed.

Except the whole thing about 'cancer patients shouldn't care about their house' was completely taken out of proportion by the OP. The point was that if a player is ill to a certain extent, there are ways to log in and save the house. If a player is beyond that, and in a state where they can't even ask anyone to log in for them, their house would be the least of their concern. This is coming from a person who is sick themselves and has been in similar situations.

This is not a proper solution for the housing shortage. This is more like Eminent Domain run amuck because they can't/won't use the resources necessary to implement a better design to properly accommodate the demand for housing plots.

I agree with you. It's a ridiculous way to 'fix' the housing shortage. But my entire point is that people shouldn't be bringing illness and other aspects into this just because they don't agree with the 45 day time frame. If people are going to bring those aspects into argument they will get argument back.

[Asmodai]

No offense, but then you are not someone SE will cater to. Not everyone burns through content quickly nor is running it all the want to do. Why should these players be punished when they're actively paying for those 3-5 month intervals because others have unsubbed to play something else? It's just bad business on SE's part, and makes far more sense to offer benefits to consistently paying customers as those are the people likely to stick with you longer.

Youre taking your time with those 9 instances they put in.

[ElHeggunte]

For a FC I can understand. For a personal house... there's a 3 month gap between content patches. Currently we're on a 5 month gap because the devs took a well deserved vacation. 45 days may be too little for some people who burn through the content fast.

While I think 45 days is a little short for personal housing, I also think that people who sub so infrequently have very little need or use for a house in the first place. If someone only remains subbed for 1-2 months every 3-6 months, I don't think they have any business taking up housing space. After a point is starts to become something they have "just because" which isn't very fair to more active players who could actually use it.