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  1. #491
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eimian_Eda View Post
    If I have already bought my house and am currently paying for the game, how am I not paying to keep my house?
    What kind of logic is that?
    The same kind of logic that you're using to jump from one example to another. Paying for your subs does not guaranteed housing, but it guarantees housing for people who may not even use it? In a 45 day period, when a typical sub covers 30 days? Your sub isn't any more important than mine or revolver bobcat's, but you still want to hold onto something that you may not use and is in limited quantity.

    Quote Originally Posted by DeceptionsWrath View Post
    I also saw quite a few about having bigger butts and where did that get us? Bigger butts doen't really help SE, but making property people paid for get cleared out and resold seems to be their fix to the housing issues. Just yet another bad decision in a long line of bad decisions. "Stay subbed or lose your house". Goes perfect with the greed SE has been showing the past year with this game.

    You'd need some sort of reclamation from people who truly don't play the game anymore, espesically if housing in itself is a limited resource (which is definitely the case). No matter how much housing you'd slam into the game, you'll still eventually run out of space and ultimately the number of players who don't even log in (but still have a house) will pile up as occupied space.
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 10-23-2015 at 12:18 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eimian_Eda View Post
    If I have already bought my house and am currently paying for the game, how am I not paying to keep my house?
    What kind of logic is that?
    Are you paying a higher monthly fee the everyone else that does not have a house?
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  3. #493
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    As it is, they're profitable to the company, but SE does not and will never let them keep 100% of the money from monthly subscriptions.
    Not 100%, no, but for heaven's sake, give them enough of a budget to make the game functional. In too many areas (including this one) it's a disgraceful couple of decades behind the rest of the industry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    So what do you say to someone who is paying a monthly fee for the game... Who doesn't go into their house in 45 days and loses their house while paying a monthly fee?
    Something along the lines of "use it or lose it". "Whoops!" is also pretty good.
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  5. #495
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Are you paying a higher monthly fee the everyone else that does not have a house?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    The same kind of logic that you're using to jump from one example to another. Paying for your subs does not guaranteed housing, but it guarantees housing for people who may not even use it? In a 45 day period, when a typical sub covers 30 days? Your sub isn't any more important than mine or revolver bobcat's, but you still want to hold onto something that you may not use and is in limited quantity.
    Last time I checked reclamation is for players who are un-active, quit the game. Gone.
    So salty, these responses. I merely asked why I must also be required to enter my house. I'm sure I would, but I do think it's pretty silly.
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  6. #496
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Not 100%, no, but for heaven's sake, give them enough of a budget to make the game functional. In too many areas (including this one) it's a disgraceful couple of decades behind the rest of the industry.
    Unfortunately there's really no need: as long as enough people still sub and play, they don't see it a reason to do any drastic change: they make enough money with the least of effort whatsoever, which is the basic of commerce.
    They MIGHT do something when the threshold gets lower but even then I doubt anything will change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissa View Post
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    I hate to tell you this but SquareEnix is a business first and foremost. If you can't pay they aren't going to cater to you regardless of the reason behind it. You can't walk into a store and demand goods without having any money. It's the same thing. It may seem harsh but unfortunately that's just the way it goes, especially for limited content in very high demand. They have to give it to their paying customers because that's where the money is. Customers who aren't paying unfortunately aren't on their priority list.
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  8. #498
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Not 100%, no, but for heaven's sake, give them enough of a budget to make the game functional. In too many areas (including this one) it's a disgraceful couple of decades behind the rest of the industry.
    Naw, it's SOP for corporate business. One reason I jumped ship to a tiny start up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlyUncle View Post
    I also answered your post, your ready comprehension seems to be lacking. Adding instanced housing DOES NOT mean the removal of existing housing wards. Can I somehow make that even easier for you to understand or you just going to ignore this rebuttal too?
    That's not true at all, you are contradicting yourself pretty hard. What you said was this: "But why not cut the number of wards down, so people who don't care for the look and just want a house can get one."
    You suggested to get rid of some wards to allow individual instanced housing. It's completly different from just "adding" instanced housing. You just want to shift the current neighborhood wards to instanced housing in the hypothesis that this won't take as much ressources so more people could get a personnal house.
    It would be even harder for people to get a house in a ward, but in exchange they'd have access to a crappy individual instanced house. Hurray. Except that the ressources you would magically "save" from deleting current wards (and completly screw everyone on these wards, btw) would still be limited. It's completly possible that not eveyone would be able to get a house even then.

    Besides, what you are suggesting was already debated the day individual housing was introduced. You are not bringing anything new here.
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    These forums and FF14 housing in a nutshell:

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    Naoki Yoshida:
    ...Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
    Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554 at 1:14:22

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