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    Ashkendor's Avatar
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeldir View Post
    Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person with a house that openly and aggressively defends the idea of housing reclamation. I know that can't be true - I just wish people in my situation were as loud mouthed as the "got mine, you can't have yours!!" crowd.
    Nah, I'm all for it too and I actually own two houses (FC and private).
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    Tatiana Thorne
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    It's reassuring to be incorrect, sometimes!
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    Taisai Jin
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    They really should just work on adding Private Rooms behind the Inns... I'd imagine the servers can actually handle it, though having SE actually chip in on the subject would certainly be ideal...

    I mean, according to the patch notes (for 2.3), a single Estate can have up to 512 Private Rooms. There is potential for 1,440 plots per server. Now, perhaps the reason they mixed Private Housing in with Free Company Housing was to ensure that a number of plots cannot produce Private Rooms, giving them some wiggle room, but I do have to imagine that each server has potential for 737,280 Private Rooms. That's... A lot...

    Again, actually having the developers chip in would be ideal here, but looking at the numbers available... That is simply the amount of Private Rooms that there is potential for, that is not a number that is likely ever to be reached... At best the game boasts what, having hit 5 million subscribers? Never mind the fact that they're not necessarily active subscribers, 5 million split across 64 servers is a measly 78,125 players per server on average... Even factoring in having multiple characters per account... Everyone would need to be rocking 9 characters, all of which they want to spend 300,000 Gil on having their own little room for, to be hitting the amount of Private Rooms there is potential for...

    So, if there is potential for 737,280 Private Rooms per server, what is stopping the implementation of Private Rooms behind Inns? It shouldn't be too problematic to simply have the same option at the Inn that we have in Free Company Estates, to purchase a Private Room for 300,000 Gil, and then tie the Inn Private Room to the Free Company Private Room when applicable... Forget the wasted resources going into maintaining server space for non-customers, there is no chance in hell the potential for over 700,000 Private Rooms per server is being met, what reason is there not to implement that? Again, SE really needs to chime in here, because the only sensible explanation, and I suspect this to be the case, is that there isn't that potential for that many Private Rooms, despite their being potential for, per server, 1,440 Free Company Estates all with potential for 512 Private Rooms. I suspect that is exactly why Private Housing were thrown in with Free Company Housing, since a Private House does not allow for the Estate to produce up to 512 Private Rooms.

    That's just a theory though, and despite owning property and being fine with this coming change, I'll remain fairly annoyed at the current state of Private Rooms based on these numbers, at least until SE drops by to actually explain the situation adequately. If anything that's what I'd be annoyed with here, the lack of communication from the developers about this stuff... I'd quite like to know how many Private Rooms they think they can handle, because slipping them in behind Inns is by far the best long term solution to Housing in this game. No it doesn't give everyone a Chocobo Stable (which I still recall as being something they're working on giving to everyone outside Housing), or Garden Plot, or Workshop, but it gives everyone their own little place to customize (which would be amazing for the fairly stagnant furniture market), and it gives everyone a use for those seasonal furnishings that are constantly being accumulated... The ideal is to turn Housing Wards not into a case of haves verses have-nots, but to just turn Housing Wards into a centralized location for the content it offers; I have my Private Room, Garden, Stable, etc., all in one place through Housing, where as someone without Housing still has all those things, just not in one spot. That's the best outcome I can imagine. Whether it's actually possible or not, we can only speculate, at least until SE decides to actually explain the situation...
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    Raist Soulforge
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    ^An expansion on this approach...


    IDK about the rest of you, but I'd be more than happy to have something akin to XI's rental room policy. Could stick some furniture in the room in my home nation on a simple, cheesy grid system with only 90 degree facing options, and things like chests and cabinetry could give you a spot of extra storage according to their size. You couldn't access the furniture and extra storage from other nations...you had to go to your home nation for that.

    It would open up so much potential to nip multiple problems at once. For me personally, it would virtually give about all I need that isn't automatically provided by affiliation to a good FC with a nice house setup.
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    Last edited by Raist; 10-23-2015 at 11:51 AM. Reason: added links to wikis on XI's Mog House

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    SE knows how many active subscribers they have, and how many FCs there are, so they should have just added enough lots to cover those numbers.

    But I still say they need to FREEZE purchasing of any personal lots, until all the eligible FCs have one.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Awesome. As someone who has a house, I think this should have been in the game from the start.
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    Last edited by FoxyAreku; 10-23-2015 at 03:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Awesome. As someone who has a house, I think this should have been in the game from the start.

    Agreed it should have been added at the start then the people here wouldn't be so vocal in their objection of it. Problem is SE listened to such people the first time now that their finally doing it people are again complaining and crying saying don't do this.

    Ofcorse its a band aid people because this is their first step to actually fix the problem.

    Its happening and 53 pages of this thread isn't going to change it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dererk View Post
    Agreed it should have been added at the start then the people here wouldn't be so vocal in their objection of it. Problem is SE listened to such people the first time now that their finally doing it people are again complaining and crying saying don't do this.

    Ofcorse its a band aid people because this is their first step to actually fix the problem.

    Its happening and 53 pages of this thread isn't going to change it.
    500 pages wouldn't stop it. SE has finally realized that these forums aren't a useful metric for gauging what their player base actually wants. So have I, really. The people I actually play this game with, the hundreds of them I've gotten to know to some extent - they're nothing like what takes place on this forum.
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    Ciel Whitewind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeldir View Post
    500 pages wouldn't stop it. SE has finally realized that these forums aren't a useful metric for gauging what their player base actually wants. So have I, really. The people I actually play this game with, the hundreds of them I've gotten to know to some extent - they're nothing like what takes place on this forum.
    So true and thank god for that. People who think not paying for months on end entitles them to limited content is pretty baffling to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OfTheWhitewind View Post
    So true and thank god for that. People who think not paying for months on end entitles them to limited content is pretty baffling to me.
    You and me both, Will never understand this "i bought it once, it should be mine forever, regardless if i play or not"
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