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    Where are the -real- Fishing improvements?

    My personal problem with fishing is how tedious it is of a gathering source for anything. The uses of -fish- for the most part are limited to culinarian, alchemist, and goldsmith, but if you're trying to harvest a larger amount of a specific item you're left fishing for hours on end trying to get even a stack of a certain catch. Botanist and Miners have it different however, Botany has Blessed Harvest I and II, Miner gets King's Yield I and II.
    Miner and Botany also get a secondary weapon/tool; Where's fishing's offhand net?



    Above is a comparison to the amount of skills available to fishing in comparison to miner and botany, the other gathering classes. I use this as reference to show there is plenty of room to add a netting system or skill-set.
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    Fishing used to do spearfishing in 1.0 and was almost on par with the other DoL classes. In 2.0 they decide to make fishing more like a hobby to enjoy and relax, more like real fishing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    Fishing used to do spearfishing in 1.0 and was almost on par with the other DoL classes. In 2.0 they decide to make fishing more like a hobby to enjoy and relax, more like real fishing.
    It may be more relaxed "more like real fishing", but lacks things that real fishing has for reasoning of harvesting more fish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamx View Post
    It may be more relaxed "more like real fishing", but lacks things that real fishing has for reasoning of harvesting more fish.
    That's what FSH Retainer are for tbh. If you want a large amount of any ingredient you need one of those. Other then that you're better off crafting/do whatever to get money and just buy the fish b/c it's faster.

    Even tho they got that wrong with 3.0 too. 3.05 added some things that were really needed (Mog Pom etc.) for the retainer to bring back but some essential fish are still not in the list *looking at you Coerthan Crab*

    Real fishing only gets you more of the same kind if you fish with a net (which you want but we only have rods) and if you get lucky enough to find a school of certain fish. I doubt we'll ever see that tho, but i'd really like a multi-hook line so i could catch 3-4 fish at a time, like yield+ on other DoL :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magistrella View Post
    That's what FSH Retainer are for tbh
    So by that logic, Botany and Miner should not have the higher yield abilities because they can make a retainer that harvests large sum of items for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamx View Post
    So by that logic, Botany and Miner should not have the higher yield abilities because they can make a retainer that harvests large sum of items for them.
    No, by that logic its more efficient to use a FSH retainer because you only can fish a certain species out of a pool of many - unlike BTN and MIN that can target what they want to get specifically. The same way it works irl, yknow?
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    As I said, they made fisher in 2.0 at a means to relax not to fish massive amount of fish in a short time. Also your list on fishing actions looks outdated or incomplete, we have Chum that drastically shorten the waiting time, Patience and Patience II to use the Hookset action to catch more HQ, and Fish Eye to get other "hidden fish". If you just want a skill or something to catch 3 fish at the same time with a rod you take out the real part of fish in my opinion. Although i would say that I want spearfishing back to use as an offhand.
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    Gill-netting

    Gill-netting could be a realistic thing to harvest large amounts of fish. Haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    your list on fishing actions looks outdated or incomplete
    If you look at the picture closely you can see, Those are abilities before 50. I chose that because the abilities after 50 are un-needed to the discussion. My point I was trying to make was that through leveling there's totally room for a fishing net off-hand item that gets abilities or uses through leveling, and levels along-side the fishing rod similar to sledgehammer and sickle.

    My main point is fishing should not be considered a "hobby" if it's literally lumped in with the other disciples of the land. Equal treatment for equal title!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TokkiWartooth View Post
    Gill-netting could be a realistic thing to harvest large amounts of fish. Haha.
    Maybe on the 2 boat nodes or the one near the beach. Try trowing a net on a river or inside a dune or even in the skys.
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