House Haillenarte: Francel Third Son and Fourth born or not?

[ExKage]

In Tales of Dragonsong War, Francel is called the fourth born. His older siblings being Lainiatte (sister), oldest brother Stephanivien, and another brother Chlodebaimt who was killed in the sacking of Steel Vigil.

In the Hunter-Scholar dialogue for Naul, Chlodebaimt is referred to with "The dragons Naul and Svara are best known for their attack on the Steel Vigil, which left the fortress a smoking ruin. Notable casualties include the third son of House Haillenarte..."

Is there another older sister?

1- Stephanivien (1st son)
2- Lainiatte
3- Unnamed sister?
4- Francel (2nd son???)
5- Chlodebaimt (3rd son)

[Corvinoobus]

To clarify the intent of the line I wrote, Francel is reflecting on his status as the fourth-born son, as daughters are often excluded from the line of succession in Ishgardian houses (there are exceptions, of course).

The birth order of Count Baurendouin de Haillenarte's children is as follows:

Stephanivien - firstborn son
Chlodebaimt - third-born son
Laniaitte - firstborn daughter
Francel - fourth-born son

I realize this may beg an obvious question, but before you think to ask─no, I can't tell you anything about the second-born son at this time. Terribly sorry about that.

Hope that clears things up!

[Fenral]

I realize this may beg an obvious question, but before you think to ask─no, I can't tell you anything about the second-born son at this time. Terribly sorry about that.

(Looking forward to it.)

[Zeonx]

Okay I admit it I am the second son.

Cats out of the bag, I escaped long enough just to let you know this, oh no gotta go father got the whooping stick!!!

[Kogasan]

I wonder why they can't say anything about the second born son. Kinda curious what it is that is so special about him that they have to hide the name.

[StarDrake]

I realize this may beg an obvious question, but before you think to ask─no, I can't tell you anything about the second-born son at this time. Terribly sorry about that.

Hope that clears things up!

Oh ho~

Looking forward intensifies. Hmm, who do we know that might qualify as hidden nobility...

[Serilda]

Excellent post; consider me intrigued

[Silverbane]

... in Ishgardian houses ...

<Sigh> I wish I could be in an Ishgardian house ...

[saber_alter]

<Sigh> I wish I could be in an Ishgardian house ...

I don't...too much floofing about.

[NessaWyvern]

Maybe it was Hauchefant? Dun dun dunnnnnn