Dear SE, please address the exploitation of "face target" command in PVP

[AstralKaos]

it is unfair to ps4 players that pc players can use this sort of thing. Ive seen videos of people using this hack in AS progression to improve their dps from auto attacks, whereas the ps4 people can only use lock on that forces you to move at half speed backwards increasing your odds of getting hit from aoe. It seems like ps4 is always at a disadvantage in this game already with parsers and other plugins. Maybe they could at least remove the slowdown back pedal of lock on to even things out if fixing face targets isn't possible. At least then everyone could do it instead of just a select few.

You can do it on PS4... trust me on that one.

Oh, and this has been around for ages, the Japanese PvP community has been using this for a long time now and nobody has complained about it. Meaning you know what^^

I like "gliding" personally as it ramps up fight speed and so on, makes things more exciting.

[Februs]

I like "gliding" personally as it ramps up fight speed and so on, makes things more exciting.

I can see how that might be the case... for casters, but it doesn't change the fact that it still works contrary to the system set up in place for Melee users.

Positionals are made completely irrelevant by moonwalking. We're talking about willfully eliminating a aspect of the game that encourages the use of skill in favour of increasing the overall game speed. It might not be an issue in a 72 man cluster F*** like seize, but things like this make a huge and rather annoying difference in smaller game modes like 24 man, or Wolves Den.

Also, it leaves the door open to broken gameplay. Speedhacking is easier to hide using moonwalking, and could you imagine if everyone did it? It seems nice for you now since there's only a few people who are taking advantage of it, but imagine if the entire map was full of people who glided around like specters instead of actually using their legs. The game would look and feel broken.

[AstralKaos]

I can see how that might be the case... for casters, but it doesn't change the fact that it still works contrary to the system set up in place for Melee users.

Positionals are made completely irrelevant by moonwalking. We're talking about willfully eliminating a aspect of the game that encourages the use of skill in favour of increasing the overall game speed. It might not be an issue in a 72 man cluster F*** like seize, but things like this make a huge and rather annoying difference in smaller game modes like 24 man, or Wolves Den.

Also, it leaves the door open to broken gameplay. Speedhacking is easier to hide using moonwalking, and could you imagine if everyone did it? It seems nice for you now since there's only a few people who are taking advantage of it, but imagine if the entire map was full of people who glided around like specters instead of actually using their legs. The game would look and feel broken.

Oh, I know full well what it does to melee, as that's my primary choice of class. I also know that positionals are largely a hassle to go for, for a magnitude of reasons already (latency, unpredictable non-AI movement, etc etc etc), and in some cases (important: some) it's just not possible, or outside of Trick Attack even worth going for.

Also, for the record, I'm not saying to use it, or even to not remove it, just saying that it was possible on PS4, and in my experience entertaining in matches, both being done by and against me. What actually got me going was the comparison to the bunny-hopping of old WD fame... this isn't even in the same league of issue as that was.

Not sure about this speed hack stuff, is this a thing? And yeah, a whole 72 player match of people doing this would look dumb... if a bit amusing, for a minute or so.

[Februs]

Not sure about this speed hack stuff, is this a thing? And yeah, a whole 72 player match of people doing this would look dumb... if a bit amusing, for a minute or so.

It is, unfortunately. You can youtube it and come up with some pretty interesting videos of people either running (not sprinting) at sprint speed, or, in the absolute worst cases, going full "no-clip" and flying around the map.I've never seen it personally in a PvP match, though I've heard rumours. However, I have seen it within the regular game map. I was once in Central Than and saw a group of five people hovering over the gound and flying (literally) at break neck speed. They had the animation of simply jogging, but were actually flying. They seemed to have cleared the entire map in less than 5 seconds. I'm not sure what they were doing, mind you, because they kept repeating the action over and over, bouncing east to west, but they were doing it.

And yeah, it probably would look pretty amusing to see 72 people gliding around at first, but I don't think the fights would be fun if we could all just easily glide in and out of our attack ranges without having to actually go through the motions, and I have a feeling that the result would be most PvP'ers swapping to casters or ranged, since Melee would be at a disadvantage trying to catch people that could move without restrictions and still fling arrows or spells at the person chasing them without concern or penalty.

[Haze4dayz]

Thanks for the sweet pvp hacks. I'll be sure to incorperate this into my systm and share with everyone in each match.

/facetarget macro and spam it. Thanks!!