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    Player Shirobi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post


    It actually is a dps loss since you're delaying the use of your weapon skill by half a GCD if you have to cancel it.
    AN in exchange for that half a gcd you're gaining another shot fired. its just not gonna be a dps loss. Its not like that half a GCD just passes without getting anything out of it. You're still gaining a shot fired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirobi View Post
    AN in exchange for that half a gcd you're gaining another shot fired. its just not gonna be a dps loss. Its not like that half a GCD just passes without getting anything out of it. You're still gaining a shot fired.
    You don't seem to comprehend why it's a DPS loss for wasting a GCD. Canceling a cast in general means you've been standing still for the time you've been channeling up to the point where you have been casting. If you were to split this down into 3 GCDs with 1 bloodletter proc inbetween, you'll finish 3 casts + the bloodletter faster than doing 3 casts, canceling one, using that bloodletter and re-casting that canceled cast. If you're betting on that one chance to get that re-proc within the next GCD, you're betting on the low chances as I've explained to you in my other post:
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    As for losing procs as a bard, there are actually intervals for river of blood between each procs. You could easily finish your current cast to use whatever proc you have after that aside from Straight Shot.

    Even if you consider the chances of losing procs:
    River of Blood has a 2x 10% chance to proc, assuming 20% crit rate
    Straighter shot 20% chance to proc

    Odds are much higher that you don't get a proc in comparison to wasting a proc. Where in most casts you may interrupt your cast for a proc and don't get a proc after your next cast; You simply lose GCD time like this.
    For every cast you cancel in favor for a proc, you'll waste time in the long run. On average you'll waste your time spend casting by canceling it four times out of five.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shirobi View Post
    And yes, you most certainly can get back to back bloodletter procs. It is not always a 3 second wait between procs.
    River of blood can only be activated when damage is actually dealt from your DoTs. Apply it on a dummy and look at the numbers. You'll realise they appear at a timed interval and are not continuous. Ergo: Bloodletter can't proc faster than 3 seconds. If it's happening it's because the DoT damage happened shortly after you use bloodletter.

    Sources for you to read up about that confirms this:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ots_explained/
    http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/117...=1#post6154837

    If you don't want to read those, here is a video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQGGTKgL8-g

    In particular this bit of that video:
    https://youtu.be/aQGGTKgL8-g?t=5m
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    Last edited by Lyrica_Ashtine; 10-20-2015 at 07:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirobi View Post
    AN in exchange for that half a gcd you're gaining another shot fired. its just not gonna be a dps loss. Its not like that half a GCD just passes without getting anything out of it. You're still gaining a shot fired.
    No. No, you don't gain anything. Since a proc can only happen every 3 seconds and a weaponskill is on a 1,5 second cast, you will ALWAYS be able to use all your procs while finishing all your weapon skills, without ever having to interrupt anything. I don't get what's so difficult to understand about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shirobi View Post
    And yes, you most certainly can get back to back bloodletter procs. It is not always a 3 second wait between procs.
    No, it can't. See post above me. Just stop pretending this bs already, it's seriously dumb.
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