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    There's already a hotkey that you can bind for cancelling casts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VitalSuit View Post
    There's already a hotkey that you can bind for cancelling casts.
    Yeah, but the functionality to add it to a macro would ensure it goes off every time as needed with 1 less button push. It would enable you to be orders of magnitude more efficient than jumping or hitting another button. If you've ever played that other MMO with the purple elves, you'll know what Im getting at here. Using /stopcast at the beginning of a macro can be a substantial DPS increase over a moving or jumping to clip cast times or hit procs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirobi View Post
    Using /stopcast at the beginning of a macro can be a substantial DPS increase over a moving or jumping to clip cast times or hit procs.
    Macros in this game don't work like that, your stopcast and bloodletter would try to execute at the same time. See any thread about dps macros and why they are bad.

    Also, DoT ticks on the 3 second timer server-side, procs happen on that timer. There is no reason to cancel a 1.5s cast to use a proc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    Macros in this game don't work like that, your stopcast and bloodletter would try to execute at the same time. See any thread about dps macros and why they are bad.

    Also, DoT ticks on the 3 second timer server-side, procs happen on that timer. There is no reason to cancel a 1.5s cast to use a proc.
    Stopcast wouldnt try to go off at the same time. Its not an ability and it wouldnt be on any sort of cool down. Why would you think that?

    And yes, you most certainly can get back to back bloodletter procs. It is not always a 3 second wait between procs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirobi View Post
    Stopcast wouldnt try to go off at the same time. Its not an ability and it wouldnt be on any sort of cool down. Why would you think that?
    Unless you put a full second wait after it, it would attempt to go off at the same time. And unless your ping is 0 nanoseconds and this non-ability occurred faster than instant abilities, it wouldn't work (again look at why macros are bad for dps threads, abilities don't queue).
    Quote Originally Posted by Shirobi View Post
    And yes, you most certainly can get back to back bloodletter procs. It is not always a 3 second wait between procs.
    Back-to back being 3 seconds apart, yes. DoT ticks on the 3 second game timer with HP/MP regen. Procs happen when a DoT tick hits critical.
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    I remember bringing this up a long time ago. Maybe even beta forums. Stopcast would likely be useful here because of the delay procs have. I wouldn't expect it to happen anytime soon. They're just now adding macros to cancel a buff, and we still have no /item command, not to mention how useless combat macros typically are because of the ability queue removal. However, maybe one day SE will hop onto the functionality/QoL train. Don't stop asking.
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    Last edited by Priya; 10-18-2015 at 02:30 AM.
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    On controller the button for stopcast is Triangle (or Y on Xbox). There might already be a button on the keyboard setup.
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    Description in one of the posts saying you could essentially cancel the cast at the same time you'd stutter step to get the same effect + you could instantly after start casting the next skill.(on phone, quoting small parts from big posts is hard)

    That might have worked in Wow or some other MMO but as far as I know in this game casting and recasting times are not linked. So even if you'd do the stopcast and get the cast bar off the screen and still fire off the cast. You'd have the recast timer running until you can do the next skill because server registered your skill as cast so it'll finish the recast timer. (Pretty sure that if you'd cancel your cast early enough to not get the "stutter step" effect on it and it wouldn't cast, then your recast timer would reset too. But that means lost GCD time which we all know what that means)

    As said many times. If you have cast time of 1.5s and DoT ticks every 3 second you can't lose a proc unless you don't use the proc after the cast you just started. The only time you can get the reset of BL in under 3 seconds of using the skill is if you used non-proceed BL and right after using that you get the proc. But that means you still won't get the next proc during your current cast.
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    Hitting ESC on the keyboard cancels actions/spells.
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    /stopcast
    /ac "Instant Healing Spell" <mo>
    /stopcast
    /ac "Instant Healing Spell" <t>
    etc.

    Or

    /stopcast
    /ac "Super Defensive Cooldown" <me>

    Are the only things I can think of that could be useful, and only tanks get defensive cooldowns that are worth anything, so the second one is moot.
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