Negative GM Support Feedback

[Eye_Gore]

Because of this I sent a GM report before they kicked me stating that I think they are going to kick me and eventually they did.

So you reported people for doing something they didn't even do yet? I guess its a good thing they did, as you could have action against you for making false reports. Probably not a good idea making reports "before" something you think is going to happen.

[KingOfAbyss]

ive got one report for parsing although i dont use it just saw well geared group 195-205 and dung takes like 35mins. I just stated for their gear it takes too long. Its not always parser but even experience can do the trick.
Although i would suggest to prioritize kicked players in que. If you get kicked twice in row, ok than nothing but if you get kicked as dps you will spend half an hour in que again.

... since when 35 min for a dungeon.. it's too long? The timer show 90 min, it should be done within that time.

Some are enjoying it at their pace, clearing up all content, all bosses, and the duty is completed.

it's because of people with your mindset that DF is the way it is now..

perhaps not you if you join premades, but those who wait 30+ mins as a DPS.. it sucks for them, cause we will tank elsewhere.

[WoodyMcWood]

So you reported people for doing something they didn't even do yet? I guess its a good thing they did, as you could have action against you for making false reports. Probably not a good idea making reports "before" something you think is going to happen.

Technically they were "doing something" through their cues, which is when I placed my report. So yeah, my report was justified and I did get voted out just as I thought I would. Premades are usually the people that abuse the vote kick function and a vote kick function with just 2 votes yes is a lot of power as well for abuse. In my situation it was a premade of 3 people so I was gone no matter what.

[Myrhn]

I was leveling DRG for my retainer. It's like some people don't read O.o I stated I queued for leveling roulette, I did not choose to enter Vault. Anyway, I did have the Vault's dragoon weapon and a mixed of ilevel 120-136 gear. If what you said is fine to do I'll start vote kicking people out as well because I've just been leaving them in my groups and running the dungeons slowly especially in Expert where they have 160 gear /shrug. So far most people seem to be leaning that it is fine to vote kick people out if the dungeon is not a speed run so I'll just do that on my main jobs as well.

It doesn't matter for what you were leveling and since you choose a roulette you should be geared for anything. Ilvl 120- 136 is like I said around lvl 50 - 54 gear and thats really low for a lvl 57 dungeon. Expert roulette with ilvl160 is the lowest you can enter and is acceptable at least to me or anyone really. I never mention speed run or anything thats all on your mind but if a boss is taking forever to die I will look who is the weakess person. I think a while back when spiritbonding on a dungeon was a thing a rep mention that you could consider that sort of harrasment for the other people doing the dungeon with you. I'm not really condoning for vote kick you but if you are not pulling your weight you are as good as dead weight and you getting carried in the dungeon.

[Nyghtmarerobu]

People expect you to have level appropiate gear after level 50.

If you meet the i-lvl requirements for the dungeoun, then you are fine in my book. Only thing I expect is for people to not cheat their way into a dungeoun. (vit gear on a dex class)
I never figured out why people bring this up, sicne they have to be the dungeouns requisite i-lvl, in this case, whatever it is for the Vault.

[Myrhn]

If you meet the i-lvl requirements for the dungeoun, then you are fine in my book. Only thing I expect is for people to not cheat their way into a dungeoun. (vit gear on a dex class)
I never figured out why people bring this up, sicne they have to be the dungeouns requisite i-lvl, in this case, whatever it is for the Vault.

Before que you can get your ilvl up with w/e gear and change in the dungeon even to lower what the dungeon is for. Also if your highest ilvl comes from your accesorries thats not much of an improvement. Just imagine a tank with ilvl120 left side and ilvl136 right side, thats would be a nightmare to heal on Vault and not sure if you could finish the dungeon that way.

[WoodyMcWood]

It doesn't matter for what you were leveling and since you choose a roulette you should be geared for anything. Ilvl 120- 136 is like I said around lvl 50 - 54 gear and thats really low for a lvl 57 dungeon. Expert roulette with ilvl160 is the lowest you can enter and is acceptable at least to me or anyone really. I never mention speed run or anything thats all on your mind but if a boss is taking forever to die I will look who is the weakess person.

The Vault does not have any ilevel restrictions meaning that anyone can enter that dungeon. If your logic is that ilvl 160 is the minimum ilvl to enter Expert, which it clearly states so then it is acceptable then you should be able to accept that a dungeon that has no ilvl restriction it is also acceptable. It's not like I was afking, sitting back or just autoattacking. Like I stated before the group was moving at a normal pace.

[DarkAngel200]

The only things I've seen a GM do is rename a Free Company, rename people with "bad" names, and warn players (very rare). I assume people here have had a job before so you can understand some GMs actually do their work and some are lazy. I'm not sure how the process works being that I don't work for SE, but in my opinion looking at logs is tedious and boring work so it's best to assume they don't look into every report. They probably have reports based on priority and difficulty so they do easy things like looking at "bad" names first and put the tedious things last or someone else is supposed to "investigate" it. It's like the IRS, they don't check every person's tax return. If GMs actually punished people for vote kicking I'm sure you would see more forum posts about people complaining of unfair action. To get away with Vote Kicking 1. premade 2. voice chat 3. kick for afk at worst you'll only be warned.

[Myrhn]

The Vault does not have any ilevel restrictions meaning that anyone can enter that dungeon. If your logic is that ilvl 160 is the minimum ilvl to enter Expert, which it clearly states so then it is acceptable then you should be able to accept that a dungeon that has no ilvl restriction it is also acceptable. It's not like I was afking, sitting back or just autoattacking. Like I stated before the group was moving at a normal pace.

My logic is that you should have lvl apropiated gear for the dungeon you are entering. You enter a lvl60 dungeon on expert roulette or w/e you are expected to have level 60 gear. You are entering The Vault you should be having lvl 56-59 gear. How hard is that? You can even buy it from vendor.

[WoodyMcWood]

My logic is that you should have lvl apropiated gear for the dungeon you are entering. You enter a lvl60 dungeon on expert roulette or w/e you are expected to have level 60 gear. You are entering The Vault you should be having lvl 56-59 gear. How hard is that? You can even buy it from vendor.

You can only enter a 60 dungeon if you fall within it's requirements which an average ilvl of 145. There is no restrictions for Vault in terms of gear and I've ran that dungeon with people that have worse gear than myself. So again, by your logic it's fine to vote kick people out with low gear and that is what I plan on doing from this point on. It doesn't look like there's any official response on this so I'm just guessing it's fine to vote kick people out when you're in a premade group.